1820: Tokyo Rose

Whatever. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, November 27th, 2025. This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media Assassination Episode 1820. This is no agenda. No B-Team here. We're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where our motto is, don't give up the ship. I'm John C. Dvorak. Don't give up the ship you you missed the point of that I did I did what am I what am I missing? That was with this a dish is sick said oh all these other guys said at the end of their little clips that were put together I'm only convinced by Schumer first of all yeah, we'll be so happy happy Thanksgiving. I want everybody to know We're working for you

Everybody's taking the day off. It's unbelievable how many people, they all worked on Monday. Yeah. Like the entire, everybody except for the B team at Fox, for example. All bailed. All of them. Dude, even Candace Owens is taking the week off and she's about to be killed by an Israeli agent. I mean, come on. Nobody's working but us. She's just stay on the mic if that's going to happen. You know, if I was, that's what I would do. Talk about going down with the ship. Like, come on, kill me on the air, man. Let's go. Let's do it. Mr. Mossad. I want to get these clips out of the way. This is going down with the ship thing. But this... you're so out of format. This is not what we do every year. What do we do? Every single Thanksgiving...

And this is almost like the night before Christmas book. You're talking about the long story about what Thanksgiving really is? You need to tell us the actual story of Thanksgiving because... I do this every year. I used to put it in the newsletter. I gave up. Why? It's so beautiful. I actually went and looked up your previous your previous thing, because you have done this since 2005 in print. Yeah, I know, it's getting old. And I loved, because I did a search, and like, oh, let me go, let me go. This is the format. This is the format, man. Thanksgiving format. You're like, oh, let's go down with this shit. No, hold on a second. No.

By the way, I want to mention that the idea that we do work on this Thanksgiving, we did miss one. But generally speaking, but we're not like these people are all bailed out. It's unbelievable. Yeah, like they don't care about their audience, man. Well, it's not even that is there is stuff happening. Yeah, well, there's a lot happening. But wait, before you go into different directions. I'm trying to get off this track, obviously. It's not going to happen. I went, I found, I did a search. The first hit was Dvorak.org slash blog. This is great. And the first hit was a repost of your 2005 post. Yeah, all these are reposts. It is, it is.

And I love how it starts off. I'm always amused by the cock and bull story about Thanksgiving being about pilgrims, maize, turkeys and Indians when the holiday stems from an Abe Lincoln proclamation at the behest of a magazine editor. And then you go into this, but what I didn't realize, the comments are great. Have you ever looked at these comments from... Not for years. Like, shut up you old crank! Eat your turkey, you ingrate! It's great, oh that's a good one. I like that one. What? Thanksgiving didn't start with the pilgrims? Next you'll be telling us George Washington didn't chop down a cherry tree and Betsy Ross did not sew the first American flag. There's a lot of hate here. And I realize that somehow

You say these horrible things and you're able to deflect it to me. It's like I become your lightning rod. You haven't been catching the flack for the thanks for the truth about Thanksgiving. The truth. The truth. The cock and bull story. Who needs it? I noticed it's been they've been downplaying it and I've heard on a couple of shows Over the last couple days where people do refer to the Lincoln proclamation They don't mention that it was that three has to vote magazine editor, but they do mention it which they've never done before What's interesting is I looked up? Lincoln's proclamation. I'm not gonna read it. It's very long But what I found interesting this year is that he basically copied large swaths of the Bible and

Deuteronomy, Psalms, I mean it's and he did this what like in the middle of the Civil War I think? No, it was right after the Civil War. This was a Thanksgiving for the, this was immediately after the Civil War. Oh, so it was, isn't that right around the Gettysburg Address then? No, no, no. No, I think he did this one week after the Gettysburg Address. Well, I don't, well, we'd have to do, you've got your little robot right there. Hold on, let me talk to the robot. Let's see, error. When did President Lincoln give the Thanksgiving Proclamation?

President Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving proclamation on October 3rd, 1863. Would you like to know more about it? Yeah, was the Civil War over? No, the Civil War was still raging when Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving proclamation in 1863. It actually lasted another two years. Is there anything specific about the proclamation? Oh, shut up. Okay, well then it would be closer to the Gettysburg Address. Yeah, so and he was telling us to thank God That's what he was telling us and it wasn't for the dead soldiers like you keep writing and saying because I looked it all up It was to thank God that he has mercy on us, even though we don't deserve it that there you go. There's your 300 words Abbreviated and that's somehow that turned into this crazy turkey pardoning stuff, which I also had to look up and

Kennedy's the one who started that one, I do know that. Ah, no, I don't think so. Well, let's ask the robot. No, no, let's listen to a report. I just want to tell you this very important. You are hereby unconditionally pardoned. With an audience looking on, President Trump granted a full and complete pardon to a 52 pound turkey named Gobble, part of an annual White House holiday tradition. On behalf of the first lady and the entire Trump family, I want to wish all Americans a very, very very happy Thanksgiving. It's a great time of the year. His friend Waddle was also spared. He stopped by the White House briefing room earlier in the day. Want to give us a gobble?

President Harry Truman was the first to be presented with a turkey by the National Turkey Federation ahead of Thanksgiving. But the more modern presidential pardon dates back to George H.W. Bush. This will be our 78th presentation here and it's just a true honor for the U.S. turkey industry. Anyway, blah blah blah. So I looked it up. So Truman started this, but it wasn't, you know, I'm like, why do we pardon the turkey? I mean, I really would listen. It is dumb. Yeah, it is. So Truman was trying to conserve grain for foreign aid to Europe after the Second World War. This is just what I found. So I believe this to be true. So he pardoned the turkey so they could eat the grain? No. His administration promoted meatless Tuesdays and poultry-less Thursdays.

This enraged people were eating that much poultry. What I'm just I'm just reading it this enraged the poultry industry and you notice that it's always the poultry Union or whatever who? So before you continue you had you have you've got Truman documented I've heard about Kennedy and then they in the report you played it was George HW Bush Truman first and She said Truman first. Did she say Truman? Yeah. I thought she said George H.W. Bush. President Harry Truman was the first to be presented with a... Okay, wait. Let it play.

It's boring after that. Turkey by the National Turkey Federation ahead of Thanksgiving. The National Turkey Federation. But the more modern presidential pardon dates back to George H.W. Bush. Yeah, so there you go. But there's a reason. Actually, it was Reagan before that. This was always used for political reasons. So what happened with Truman is the National Turkey Federation were mad that he had said, hey, we don't eat any poultry on Thursday. And so in order to make it up to them, they sent crates of live chickens to the White House in protest.

And that's how this presentation started. Then it was Reagan, who was just looking at the turkey. There was no pardoning of the turkey. They'd just be out there in front of the White House going, oh yeah, about that turkey, yeah, happy Thanksgiving everybody. And I tried to get the audio, but it was really too, it wasn't good enough. a reporter yelled a question, Mr. President, are you going to pardon Oliver North and John Poindexter? And he says, no, I'd probably pardon this turkey before I did that for sure, or something to that effect. You can't really hear it. And that's kind of where the pardon came from. And now it's just become this Turkey Federation fest. Basically, it's a lobbying exercise for the Turkey Federation. Why else would we do it? It makes no sense.

It's fun to look at the turkeys, I guess. Well, when you have a 50-pounder. Well, those beautiful turkeys. So I'm gonna read from the GROK, or no, if this is from OpenAI. President John F. Kennedy was the first U.S. president on record to informally spare a Thanksgiving turkey in 1963. Through a formal tradition of a presidential pardon was not established until 1989. That would be the George H.W. Bush. During a rose garden ceremony on November 19th, 1983, just three days before his assassination, this is why they killed him. Kennedy was presented with a 55- The Turkey Federation killed him. Now we know the Turkey people killed him. And by the way, this is interesting because Trump went on and on about this 50 pound turkey. Gobble, gobble. Kennedy was presented with a 55 pound turkey from the National Turkey Federation.

So, the turkey had a sign on his neck that said, good eating. This is just it's just the best lobbying organization in the business. They every single year they get to present their beautiful birds. Everyone's all hungry. Oh yeah, I need a turkey because it makes no sense. Well, the whole thing is stupid. Yes, yes. But I think it was great that they brought this one bird into the press room. Yeah, next to the... The other turkeys. Next to her kid. What's her name? That was... What's his name? That's the kid of the press secretary. Yeah.

So that yes, the whole thing is ludicrous All right. So now before you jump into the going down with the ship I learned something important that that you actually called me out on I want to make sure that we just are aware of this before we get underway, so that's interesting to say that because I have a I put aside a call-out for you for something you did or said and That was so on the money. It's ridiculous, and I've already forgotten what it is well have to think that'll come up But you watch this will come up during the three hours So this is from the anonymous TSA agent And he says on episode 18 19 made an offhanded comment about Marjorie Taylor Greene and something the tune of well We all know the news of a resignation

And he says, I want you to know that I am one of, in my opinion, a not insignificant portion of the producer base who looks at No Agenda as our primary and near sole source of national and international news and analysis. And that isn't because we're too lazy to watch the news. It's because your show over the course of the last 18 years, eight years, has infected my mind Good. And show me that the M5M... What? It infected it? Infected. Infected my mind. Oh, infected. And show me that the M5M is nothing... is full of nothing but lying two-faced terrible people who will make you believe the sky is red if it gave them an extra penny on their paycheck that week. Yeah. So... so and I was thinking about it.

Yeah, that's probably true. And I personally need to be more aware of that because we're wrapped up in it. This is what we do. We're watching everything. We're watching the podcast circularity, everybody going on each other's podcast, talking about their podcasts and how that podcast work. When I interviewed that podcaster on this podcast over there and debated that podcaster. And how many people are really on X? 60 million? How many in America? You know, There's a good chance that 90% of America just wants to have a nice job, just wants to come home, have a beer, watch some Netflix, and maybe catch the No Agenda show to hear what's going on. Maybe, maybe not. I think the 90% don't even care that much. The people that listen to No Agenda tend to at least have some

desire to be up on current events. Yes, well, yes. So not everybody is. All you have to do is watch Jesse Waters show when Johnny goes out and talks to the public at large. Exactly. You can see there's the real public. Yeah, exactly. So it kind of made me chuckle that all these people are so up in arms about America first GOP. Like that really doesn't matter at all. to most people. To most people. So, yeah, use us as your primary source for news and deconstruction. News and blues. News and blues, everybody. So, I think you were correct before you get into your clips here. This, the Seditious Six, which I think is a good label for them. This is the setup, this is the

impeachment team at work because this was all about the drug boats as far as I could tell. I'm not so sure it was. I think it was a publicity and I by the way and nobody has said this I'm gonna be the only one that says this because I believe that Schumer is more powerful than people think. He's not a dumb a-hole the way everyone sees him. And he's behind this. And one of the reasons I think he's behind this, the people that are in this, which includes senators and congressmen, usually they don't mix, but luckily Jeffries is a Schumer acolyte.

And he's like, let them go ahead and put the congressman in there with him. The phrase, don't give up the ship is a shumerism. It's the kind of stupid thing he'd say. It makes no sense. It's like a super boomer term. It's totally. And you can just, and he's got his, he's been doing this publicity since for the last number of years. And they're dancing Congress people, all this crazy stuff that he dreams up is dumb. And he came up with this scheme and he also brought some other people on to back him up. There's another clip floating around of a bunch of servicemen saying, yeah, they're right.

And Trump's a bad guy for saying he wants to kill him when Trump never said that but okay, you know But that's I mean even Trump knew that that that's what they would take away from it. No, they're both playing the game Yeah, obviously But it's Schumer And I have a three by three Which is the clips of the of what's going on which because what's happened was the Trump trying to? The three by three let's play the jingle first. I'm ready to go. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never ending three by three. All right. This is a curve ball and start with not the ABC, NBC, CBS, but play the NPR summary, which is a little more or a little less

Slanted is still slanted in a way. Again, breaking format. The three by three, we're gonna start with number four? Yeah, you're killing me, Smalls. Six Democrats in Congress say they're being investigated by the FBI after they made a video telling members of the military that they can refuse illegal orders. President Trump called the message seditious behavior punishable by death. And Sam Greenglass has more. The White House later said the president was not suggesting the six Democrats be killed, but the Trump administration has taken steps to potentially punish the group. The Pentagon launched an investigation into Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, and now all six say the FBI has requested interviews. Senator Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan told reporters on Tuesday that Trump is attempting to stifle criticism, including over the president's moves to strike alleged drug boats and dispatch troops in US cities. This is a scare tactic by him. He is attempting to use the FBI to scare us out of

Continuing to talk. The FBI and the Justice Department declined to comment. My free speech, my free speech. I should be able to talk. So that was a fairly, you know, innocuous report. Yeah. It had them quoted. There was no other side of it. But Slotkin and Kelly in particular is a strong Schumer supporter. Oh, is that so? I did not know that. Yeah, he voted against, this is a military guy voted against during the shutdown at the behest of Schumer, voted against funding the military during the shutdown. This is how pro-military this guy is. Well, I mean, he's an astronaut. Yeah. So we know he's a liar.

You know, he's up there in the lab, you know, they got the belts on with the wires floating around. So we have the, uh, now the three by three, they're all bad. And I, I wanted, cause I have a followup clip to the whole thing, which is the bonus clip, which I had to, I was thinking about the three by three. Oh God, I got to play this at least have some balance here. Cause they wouldn't bow. They wouldn't balance these reports. So let's just start from, Do it alphabetically and go with ABC. ABC is up first. This evening the FBI is now requesting interviews with six Democratic lawmakers who told military members in those videos that they do not have to... Is this like a podcast interview? The FBI wants you to come on their podcast. This evening the FBI is now requesting interviews with six Democratic lawmakers who told military members in those videos

that they do not have to follow illegal orders. President Trump accusing the lawmakers of seditious behavior punishable by death. Well now the FBI is moving in on this and the Pentagon is threatening to court-martial Senator and retired astronaut Mark Kelly. Here's Rachel Scott tonight. Tonight the FBI wants to talk to the six Democratic lawmakers who President Trump accused of seditious behavior punishable by death for recording this message to the military. I was a captain in the United States Navy. Former CIA officer. Former Navy. Telling service members they should not follow illegal orders. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. Tonight the FBI has requested interviews with all six lawmakers, including New Hampshire Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander, who served as an intelligence officer in the Navy Reserve. I will not be intimidated. I will not be harassed. I will continue to do my job and uphold my oaths. It comes as the Pentagon threatens to

court-martial Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy captain who flew 39 combat missions in Iraq before going on to become an astronaut. Today, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called the video a quote, politically motivated influence operation. Senator Kelly explaining why the lawmakers used the words they did. We basically repeated the Uniform Code of Military Justice and they're saying that's in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It's absurd. The defense secretary continues to attack Senator Mark Kelly now sending a letter to the Secretary of the Navy asking for a review of his comments for potentially Unlawful conduct saying he wants to be briefed on the matter no later than December 10th David. No we after the Thanksgiving Day holiday and a couple of hey by the are you guys celebrating Thanksgiving today or in December?

Come on. It's not to it. We have a dinner today, but we're Thanksgiving either be tomorrow or Saturday Okay, why do it on the day? Why does it make sense? No makes no sense. So Okay, let's just say alphabetical order CBS. This 90 second long video. Threats to our constitution aren't just coming from abroad. Has ignited a week of controversy and now an inquiry by the FBI into the six Democratic members of Congress who recorded it. And who urged service members not to follow unlawful orders. Who must refuse illegal orders. All six are veterans of the military or the intelligence community.

CBS News has learned the FBI told congressional leaders Monday that the bureau wants to speak with each of them. Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin is one. The president's reaction and the use of the FBI against us is exactly why we made the video. He believes in using the federal government against his perceived adversaries. And he's not afraid to use the arms of the government against people he disagrees with. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth launched a separate probe of Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy captain, accusing Kelly of misconduct and threatening him with a court-martial. I'm not going to be silenced. I'm not going to be intimidated. Last week, President Trump accused the Democrats of seditious behavior, punishable by death. Each of the six say they've since been menaced by death threats. That's not true.

Say what? He didn't accuse anybody. Who, Trump? No, he just said sedition is, you know, whatever, it's punishable by death. He didn't say this guy did it. Accusing Kelly of misconduct and threatening him with a court martial. I'm not going to be silenced, I'm not going to be intimidated. Last week, President Trump accused the Democrats of seditious behavior, punishable by death. Each of the six say they've since been menaced by death threats. Colorado Democrat Jason Crow released some audio of the calls. deserve to die. I hope we all get murdered. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt said the Democrats who recorded the video need to be held accountable. You can't have a functioning military if there is disorder and chaos within the ranks. Just because there's an inquiry doesn't mean somebody's the target of a criminal investigation and these members of Congress have a number of defenses. The literal truth

Military service members are to disregard unlawful orders and they have First Amendment rights on steroids. They have a speech and debate clause protecting their speech uniquely. But John and Maurice, just the inquiry itself has a cost. Financial, time and energy for these six Democrats. No, but this... So there's a lie in there about Trump and there was also a lie at the end because they do have the special speech exemption on the floor of the Congress. Yep, they do. Not while you're floating around. Not on a video that you did in your office. Or in the studio. Yeah, that's true. So that was really poor CBS. This is a... Where's Barry Weiss? By the way, we're never gonna let this up. Where's Barry? Barry, what you doing? Barry Weiss, get on the ball, girl. Big shot, Barry Weiss. Why isn't she...

Putting their, you know, impromptu tour on this thing. Okay, let's go to NBC. Tonight, an escalating clash between the president and Democrats over rules governing military orders. The FBI is seeking interviews with these six lawmakers, according to a person familiar with plans. And those Democrats pushed back. President Trump is using the FBI as a tool to intimidate and harass members of Congress. You can refuse illegal orders. The video to troops by Democrats with military and intel experience did not

did not identify any specific orders. The White House says it undercuts the commander in chief. They can't identify illegal orders because there are no illegal orders. Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy combat pilot, responding. Rachel, I'm not going to be silent. I'm not going to be intimidated. Separately, partisanship made its way into a typically politics-free tradition. Gobble and waddle. The president again pressuring Democratic leadership over crime in Illinois. We've been moving toward Chicago. Oh, I love I love the Nat pop. Gobble and waddle. That's perfect. So so these reports were slanted very slightly without just even disregarding the lies that are in the CBS report. But there was no balance at all whatsoever. It was all these you know, this

using the FBI as a bludgeon. So to balance it, I found a guy that's, and I did some research on him, this Buzz Patterson character who was in the Clinton administration and he was, he's a military guy with high, he's very highly regarded, he did a couple of books. He was in the Clinton administration even though he turned into a Republican afterwards. I mean he may have been all the time and so I just checked him out so he's legit. So this would have been a nice guy to put in there as a balancing point. So, excuse me, can I get Barry Weiss online? John C. Dvorak wants to head up the news desk.

So anybody could figure this out. You could get somebody to say they won't do it. They would never put something like this on. This is no, a nut. Fox does. They bring all these military guys on and say, yeah, the good, those guys are doofus is dumb. They were stupid. That was, and they go on and on. But this guy, this was posted on his Twitter account by him. And I thought it would have been a good to balance your coverage a little bit. You'd have something like this. Everybody, this is Buzz Patterson. I'm a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, retired Air Force pilot, combat veteran. And at one time I was the military aide to President Bill Clinton and carried the nuclear football and actually lived in the White House.

I've been around. I was actually during my military service deployed to 70 countries and fought in three wars. These are his bona fides, bona fides. So I feel like I've got a dog in this hunt. I am very appalled at what the Sedition Six has done with their video. I think it's a violation of their oaths of office, especially in the case of Senator Mark Kelly. I believe it's a violation of the UCMJ and I hope that President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth hold them accountable. They are violating and they're politically using their positions to undercut the command of President Donald J. Trump and they're circumventing the chain of command. Congress and members of Senate are not in the chain of command. President Trump is, however, as our commander in chief.

So I fully support going forward with whatever prosecutions are warranted and legitimate, and I think they are, on these individuals. They use their positions, military and in the intelligence community, to expose, I think, and put at risk Those of us who serve in uniform, I think that what's going to happen is because they violated the military chain of command, people are going to die. They undercut the underpinnings of the military, which is good order and faith and trust in their leadership. In my estimation, what they did was treasonous and seditionist, and I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent. OK, so before I give you some analysis that I have, I really thought this was mainly about the

The ships, the drug boats that they're blowing out of the water, what did you think it was about? I don't think it was... I can't say that I know what it was about or why it was done. I mean, it was one of the... because Schumer does these things out of the blue. But if you wanted to take the position that it was about the drug boats because it's sketchy, I don't think there's any doubt about that. Well, in my mind... I mean, it's no different than what Obama did. We've been through that, but you are the one... I'm not going to stop talking about it. But you were the one that put me on the track of they're making such a big deal about... No, I'm sorry. You said... Yeah, there's going to be an impeach over it. If the Democrats win in the midterms, they will impeach Trump over the drug boats. That's what you said.

Yes, and I still believe that to be true. So wouldn't it be a total Schumer move? Yeah, do this often. Softening body punches. Yeah, whatever. Soften up the published mentality for this sort of. Yes. Okay. So, and to me, it's like, that's it. That's what it was about. And that made a lot of sense. Yeah, I'm not going to argue against you on this. No, because it's your... I don't have any counter argument against that thinking. You don't have to say that every single... You can just say, yeah, I agree. That's fine. You don't have to go like... No, I try to vary it. I make it so... No, you never agree! You're great, you're right, you're terrific. I can't imagine a better analysis. You've never... I can say that. You could just say, I agree. You're good to go. I can say that. Yeah, but you can't get it out of your mouth, I agree.

It's okay. I agree. I agree. What you just said, I agree. I can't get it out of my mouth. I agree. I can't get it out of my mouth. I can't do it. So we have a producer who is uniquely qualified to analyze this case and that is Rob, the constitutional lawyer. Before private practice, he was a JAG. a military lawyer. So he knows this stuff. And he gave me, of course, a very detailed analysis which I will not go through all the way. But he did say that there's some interesting sides to this depending on how what they said is interpreted. Besides the UCMJ, the military code, there are provisions in the US code that apply to civilians as well. Most notably, the anti-Tokyo Rose statute.

Did you even know this existed? I didn't even know this existed. So give a little background. Hold on a second. Let's ask the bot. Who was Tokyo Rose? Tell me about her. Tokyo Rose was a name given to English-speaking women who worked for Japanese propaganda stations during World War II, broadcasting to Allied troops. The most well-known of these women was Iva Atagori Daquino. Is there anything specific you'd like to learn about her? No, that's fine. I thought it was only one. I didn't know there was more than one Tokyo Rose.

So anyway, Tokyo Rose... That one she mentioned is the famous one. Yeah, and so she was demoralizing the troops. Let's put it that way. Yeah, well, the Germans had a bunch of guys doing this too. They had it over a certain... They were actually... They had some recordings... Interestingly... Dig up. Those were British agents, I just learned. Those German broadcasters who were broadcasting into Germany around 43, British agents different story for a different time. No, I'm talking about Germans broadcasting to England Oh, okay. So so the anti Tokyo Rose statute makes it unlawful to foment insubordination disloyalty Mutiny or refusal of duty by any military member. He says this is pretty broad Okay, well that now you have to I have to stop you. I would pull a Cara

Why hasn't I this is the first I've heard of this why hasn't any of these commentator? Why haven't any of the commentators on all the networks? of all the Barry Weiss-run operation at CBS and everybody else in between, how come not one person except our guy can come up with this? Check your bank account. Do you have $150 million for your podcast? No. That's why. We have one thing. We've got producers. We've got the best producers in the universe. I'm with you on that. I agree. It's just a note of annoyance. I agree. I agree with your annoyance.

He says, although 2387 is a civilian statute, it can still be used in a court martial by charging it under UCMJ articles 133, 134. These are conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman. Wow, that's a great title for a movie. Which makes it an offense for an officer to engage in basically any conduct that a court martial may find unbecoming. Yes, as Rob that's pretty dang. He's Texan pretty dang broad. It would make a violation of two three eight seven Which is makes it an offense for any troop officer or enlisted to engage in any conduct that discredits the armed forces or is in prejudicial or is prejudicial to good order and discipline. Again, broad enough to encompass a violation of prejudicial prejudicial. Yes. Now, could Kelly be convicted? Rob doubts it. He says.

The six Democrats are suggesting that lawful orders are in fact unlawful. And if they are suggesting that, which is really an interpretation of the language, because they didn't really, they said unlawful laws, they didn't say lawful orders that are unlawful, they said unlawful orders. Kelly's situation could become interesting in that case if he was He could be recalled to active duty and then they could prosecute him. But his conclusion really is, unless we're going for the Tokyo Rose option, he doesn't think that anything that was said would support a conviction. Okay, that brings me to a meta point.

We're not going with the Tokyo Rose thing. It's not mentioned by anybody, even the administration, except for anybody else, because they know they could use that and it would work. They don't want it to work. Ah, meta, very meta. Yeah. That's why we were stunned by, or I'm stunned, I know you maybe were stunned when you got the note, you're not stunned now, when it comes in with the Tokyo Rose analysis. They're not going to bring it up. No one's going to bring it up because they don't want to actually pursue it to an extreme where Mark Kelly would get thrown in the slammer because it would cause a, it would be a great publicity stunt. The same way it works against Democrats when they tried to put Trump in jail, his popularity zoomed and he got to be president again. He can't take a chance. Good point. There's no way I can argue that with you.

That's one of my phrases. Yes, no kidding. So that would explain the non-appearance of the Tokyo Rose commentary on the networks. Yeah. and within the administration. You know, some smarty pants that was in the press room could throw it at Carolyn Leavitt, that exact same thing, it would stir up a problem. So we're the only ones mentioning it, it'll never get brought up by anybody. Although, I don't know if Trump even knows about it because he could put all kinds of fun labels, you know, Tokyo, Kelly Rose, you know, he could do all kinds of stuff like that. And he would have a field day with it.

So, I think we're in agreement that it's going nowhere. It's fun for the Thanksgiving holiday. No, it's more Republican, you know, this is like Comer, James Comer's, oh, we got, we connected the dots, we got Hunter Biden's, all the bank accounts, we're gonna get him, we're gonna get him, nothing ever comes of it. This is all Theater of... Diminution of theater is ridiculous. Well, then there's another legal battle that took place which I got... I finally found a report that mentioned the two important words. I had to get it from Canada. This is about Comey and Letitia James. For the White House, it's an embarrassing double defeat that tosses out the rushed and politically directed prosecutions of New York Attorney General Letitia James and former FBI Director James Comey.

I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me, which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence. The cases fell apart after a federal judge ruled prosecutor Lindsay Halligan was illegally appointed, nullifying her work. The Department of Justice will be appealing very soon and it is our position that Lindsay Halligan is extremely qualified for this position but more importantly was legally appointed. Halligan had never prosecuted a case before, but was handpicked by President Donald Trump to go after his perceived enemies after career prosecutors warned there wasn't enough evidence to move ahead. No evidence! One way or the other. One way or the other.

They're guilty, they're not guilty, we have to act fast. The case is a mess and it's really amateur hour there at the DOJ and it's really their own doing because of the timing and the experience of the prosecutor they put on this case. While grand juries later indicted both Comey and James, the cases were always considered legally shaky and open to claims of vindictive prosecution. This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. The failure is a major blow to Trump's efforts to bend the justice system to his will. There's little reason to think it will end the president's demands for specific prosecution. The cases against both Comey and James were dismissed without prejudice, meaning they can be brought again. But that's assuming the administration can actually find another prosecutor who's willing to take them on.

Without prejudice. Where did this report come from? Canada. That's the most slanted report I've heard for a long time. Well except for the end. Trying to bend him to his will. Yeah but my point, all reports were like that but they at least mentioned without prejudice. Because this wasn't about them not being guilty, but if you believe the headlines and the lower thirds and the breaking news flash, you'd think, oh well, double defeat, they're out, they got off. I agree with you. It was a what? Stop the presses. So without prejudice means, okay, so you can just bring it again. Now there's some statute of limitations. Right, we also have with prejudice, which means you can't. Can't, yes. But there's some statute of limitations which expired or expired. So it's, hopefully they'll still be able to get him because of all the people, Comey is definitely a rat. Definitely no good, that guy. No good.

And then he did that comment that was in that clip where he never lets up. He's just asking for trouble. He says, and there are a bunch of malignant bastard. I don't know what he said, but it was negative. I think I have this from PBS, I have to say, the report about this, or actually, it's not about this specifically, it's about the other stuff, where Trump's indictments have been kicked. end of a chapter in American history. The final criminal charges against President Donald Trump have been dropped after a prosecutor in Georgia moved to dismiss the case, focused on a push to overturn the 2020 election results in the state. The president, as we remember, was one of 19 suspects. That's his mugshot back then, including his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, as well as former attorney Rudy Giuliani. What happened today?

I wanna remind our viewers that this was all precipitated by a phone call, an infamous phone call now between President Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. So what are we gonna do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Tell us, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. We have that in spades already. Nick, that phone call happened at the beginning of January in 2021. By February, just a month later, the district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia, Fannie Willis, had opened a criminal investigation into that phone call and whether the president was pressuring the Secretary of State to overturn the election results in Georgia. This resulted in a long legal battle, and there were criminal charges that were brought against the president and these 18 other co-defendants in August of 2023. Now, this was

considered a RICO or a racketeering case. It was sweeping. There were different charges against different defendants here. But this was all a number of people that are high profile and that I think our viewers would remember. Mark Meadows, the former White House chief of staff, Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal attorney, were caught up in this. As well, these charges were all dismissed today by the special prosecutor down there who has just recently been appointed to oversee this. He asked for these charges to be formally dismissed by the judge, basically saying that he does not think that there is enough information to bring this. Before you continue, there's an interesting timing on this.

There's a couple of guys doing the rounds of the podcasts, notably Gary Bernson. And he showed up on Going Rogue with Laura Logan. So you know that there's more behind it. And he wrote a book and it's nothing that we haven't heard before, but he lays it out. And I don't have any clips of it. You can go listen to the podcast. He lays out pretty well. how the Dominion voting machines were rigged with software from, I want to say it's semantic or something. And that that software, and this is why the timing is so interesting, and this was all funded by Patrick Byrne, the former Overstock CEO. You recall he was in and out of the White House at the time with everybody else. It completely vindicates... And he's the guy who, Patrick Byrne's also the guy we played the clip of... Clinton, with Hillary Clinton, FBI drop. Hillary Clinton set up for the bribe, right. So, it completely believable, and this book retraces the history of the vote-changing software

Which is just as as a vibe coder completely believable. We've heard this so many times There's been some forensic evidence that we've seen and there's been so much throughout throughout the years since the since the 2020 election But it is all completely traced back to stop before the 2020 election. We have to go back be way before that when the George W Bush election when they had the Diebold machines. Yes. Or Diebold, however you pronounce it. Completely different company making these same election machines and they were supposedly rigged. That's the only way Bush could win. It was the Republicans rigging the machines, supposedly, again.

And everyone bitched and moaned and groaned about it, and then the Democrats turned the tables and now they have the machines and it's a different company Diebold had stopped making the machines because it was I don't know I'd like to look into how that happened well We just gave up when you follow the history of these electronic voting machines It's all based on the same software the software kept getting sold to different companies So it was the software that just got put into new hardware and But going all the way back, and here's where it gets interesting, this software was first used to steal an election in Venezuela. So you see how things, there's all these things happening kind of at the same minute. We've got a whole fleet offshore there. Right, we're bombing. Right. A lot of stuff going on. Too many coincidences. Exactly.

Exactly. Coincidence? Coincidence? I think not! No coincidences. All right, let's continue. This is part two of your PBS. It is too sweeping of an indictment and it would take too long because the president is a sitting president right now. He does not believe he can charge a sitting president. So tell us more about this prosecutor and as you were saying, why does he feel like this case needed to be dropped? Peter Skandalakis is the prosecutor that took over for Fannie Willis there when she was taken off of this case. There was some legal drama around that. He took over this case just recently and he released this 23 page filing today. And I spoke earlier today with Gene Rossi, who's a former federal prosecutor, and he offered his interpretation of why this was dismissed. And the word TOO comes to mind here. This indictment had too many defendants, including President Trump. It had too many counts.

And it was going to take too long to try this case if they did it in one trial. And when I'm reading this decision by this special prosecutor, I get the impression he looked at this indictment and he said, what a hot mess. It's just a lot of things put together, a hodgepodge of charges, allegations. And frankly, he didn't like it, and he didn't like it that it was against the sitting president. And Nick, Peter Skandalakis also wrote today in this decision, this legal filing. He said that given the complexity of the legal issues at hand, bringing this case before a jury in 2029, 2030, or even 2031 would be nothing short of a remarkable feat. Is this the end?

It sounds like it is. According to Scandalakis, I mean, he has asked the judge in this case to fully dismiss all of the charges against the president and these other 18 co-defendants here. Yeah, that had to be cleaned up. Probably right. Yeah, but the jokes on the poor guys who did the plea deal in his last clip kind of brings that out. Yeah, they're screwed. Rossi also sort of summed this up, I think, nicely too. I think a snowball in a certain part of the world has a better chance of survival than this case. This case is dead. And I can't see how it could possibly be resurrected in Georgia or in any other state. And this is overall a win for the president and for his allies here. And the president posting about this on Truth Social today, saying that justice had prevailed here. Justice has prevailed. You know, I just thought of another instance. Obama and Romney. Do you remember watching that? Those results coming back?

And all of a sudden, boom! Obama just skyrocketed over Romney and he just went home? Yeah. Yeah, that's... Romney was one of the worst candidates they've ever had. Well, still, he didn't try hard. He was doing, he was, we saw the results. The way that just flipped on a dime was crazy. Whether he was going to win or not. I mean, we just all saw it like, what? Yeah, that was, that was totally, that was, we weren't thinking about rigged voting machines. That was triple. I mean, you first, you put up a weak candidate and then even if he starts to win, you, it's rigged every which way. That guy was, uh,

It turned out to be a bonehead anyway. So then we have the next bit of shenanigans, which is the leaked phone call, which is on par with Trump's leaked phone call with Zelensky, which they impeached him over, which as you know, was a perfect phone call. It was. It was perfect. So here's the, this is a CNN. The fallout continues after a phone conversation between Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff and a top Putin aide Yuri Yushakov. That conversation was leaked to Bloomberg in the October 14th call. Witkoff appears to coach his Russian counterpart on how to approach President Trump ahead of a scheduled meeting with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky. According to Bloomberg, Witkoff says in the call, quote, Yuri, Yuri, here's what I would do. My recommendation... Wow, I like the acting. Yuri, let me read this. Yuri, Yuri, now I'm in the role. I'm completely... Now I'm Steve Witkoff. ...President Volodymyr Zelensky.

According to Bloomberg, Whitkoff says in the call, quote, that you supported it, that you supported it, and you respect that he's a man of peace, and you're just really glad to have seen it happen. They were talking about the deal at that point between Israel and Hamas over Gaza. Later in the conversation, according to Bloomberg, Whitkoff says, quote, me to you, I know what it's going to take to get a peace deal done, done yet, and maybe a land swap somewhere. But I'm saying instead of talking like that, let's talk more, hopefully, because I think we're going to get a deal here.

Now, President Trump last night appeared to brush off the call saying it was quote a standard thing. Wait a minute, President Trump appeared to brush off the call? Did he have a big balloon bubble over his head that says, oh man, I'm in trouble? I mean, what is, how about President Trump brushed off the call? Why is he saying appeared? Oh, that's an inter, that's a great catch now that you mention it. He's it's appeared to make it seem as though he's two-faced in other words He's saying one thing and doing another instead of you know, we're always trying to promote or we not we but the Republicans are trying to promote Trump as a truth teller and he never doesn't this kind of shenanigans with us where he's saying one thing and doing another he's doing what he says he's gonna do and he does it and so

To use the word appear, it means he might not be sincere. Yes. To the eyes of the reporter. Yes. Instead of talking like that, let's talk more, hopefully, because I think we're going to get a deal here. Now President Trump last night appeared to brush off the call saying it was quote, a standard thing. Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine in Congress, including some Republicans are up in arms. Among them is Republican... Hold on, stop again. I have to say that this is an example of what, you know, Scott Adams always likes to say is mind reading. Yeah, of course. Yeah, they do this way too much. The news media is always constantly mind reading.

He did, he brushed off the call, you're right. Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine in Congress, including some Republicans, are up in arms. Up in arms! Among them is Republican Congressman Don Bacon from Nebraska, who posted this on social media. For those who oppose the Russian invasion and want to see Ukraine prevail as a sovereign and democratic country, it is clear that Whitkoff fully favors the Russians. He cannot be trusted to lead these negotiations. Would a Russian paid agent do less than he? He should be fired. All right, so we're smoking out more people from the Republican Party here. Yes, that guy's a good example. I have the report that you just played, and I have the PBS version of it, which includes, it's actually maybe funnier.

Because they play it down in such a screwball way. This is the clip called Ukraine War Update. Today, US officials told PBS NewsHour they are making progress toward a document designed to end the nearly four-year grinding war. But today in Ukraine, the war raged on. Today in Ukraine, civilians pay the price of war. Terrified residents of Zaporizhzhia. Who else is supposed to pay the price? That's always civilians. What does that even mean? Civilians pay the price. Of course, human beings pay the price. Terrified residents of Zaporizhia watch their homes burn. They grab prized possessions and feel peace is impossibly far. Asked about US diplomacy. I don't know what to think. Looking at what's happened, this doesn't feel much like a peace plan. Do you believe in peace?

No. If I let myself believe that, then peace will come at a very high cost. The cost of our lives. The first draft of the U.S. peace plan required Ukraine to reduce the size of its military by almost a third, abandon ambitions to join NATO, and give up and demilitarize territory in Donetsk that Russia has failed to seize despite 11 years of war. Recently, Russia's called the fall of Donetsk inevitable. Did you hear what he said in there? He just slipped it in. The fog of war. No, they said 11 years. Oh. Rise territory in Donetsk that Russia has failed to seize despite 11 years of war. It's not been 11 years. Well, they're going by- They're counting from the day- 2014. 2014. Yeah, they're going back, but that's not when the war started. Not the full-scale invasion.

It was just a kind of what was going on then? I mean they took Crimea and then everything kind of came to a stand. There was no war going on. These people at PBS want war. Yes, well, it's 11 years of war. It's a little I think 11 years war makes it a little more like more historic. Yeah, like the yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Russia bad. Recently, Russia's called the fall of Donetsk inevitable opposition endorsed last night by President Trump. If you look, it's just moving in one direction. So eventually that's land that over the next couple of months might be gotten by Russia anyway. Today Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called that assessment unacceptable. Unacceptable? I'm an actor, damn it.

All right, you're kind of moving away from where I wanted to go, but I'll stick with it. Well, yeah, but this next clip brings us back to kind of what you were playing a minute ago. Okay. Russians are peddling the narrative around the world that Ukraine allegedly cannot defend itself. The daily results of our special forces and our deep strikes, these are all proof that Ukraine can defend its interests. It is not Ukraine that must be pressured for peace, but Russia. US and European officials tell PBS NewsHour recent negotiations have produced significant edits and agreements on most points. But Ukraine wants the most difficult decision about giving up territory discussed directly by Presidents Trump and Zelensky. Next week, Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff will go to Russia to meet Vladimir Putin, who today described progress. I'll be happy to inform you about the direction of achieving acceptable and sought-after results for us in Ukraine by peaceful means.

Russia's confidence in a U.S. deal is now reflected by Witkoff's own words. Yesterday, Bloomberg published an unprecedented leaked transcript of a phone conversation between Witkoff and Putin's top foreign policy aide, Yuri Ushakov. Witkoff told Ushakov, I have the deepest respect for President Putin. And Witkoff advised Ushakov on how Putin should speak to Trump, congratulate the president on this achievement of a ceasefire in Gaza. In Ukraine, Whitkoff said, I know what it's going to take to get a peace deal done. Donetsk and maybe a land swap somewhere. But I'm saying instead of talking like that, let's talk more hopefully, because I think we're going to get a deal here. In response, Nebraska Republican Don Bacon, who's retiring, said Whitkoff should be fired. The Nebraska guy is out. Is he up for primary? He's done. This is this is a beneficiary

Side thing that's happening in this op. This is so he can become a board member at Lockheed Martin. Yeah Are they in Nebraska no no, but he can move all right by the way you can travel Part three. And Pennsylvania Republican Brian Fitzpatrick said Secretary of State Marco Rubio should be allowed to do his job. But President Trump defended Whitkoff. I haven't heard it, but I heard it was standard negotiation. So you're worried that he's too pro-Russian? No, I think, look, this war could go on for years and Russia's got a lot more people, a lot more soldiers.

As for Ushakov, he said today the transcript was published to divide Washington from Moscow. The Soviet Union decides to interfere with us. It's unlikely it was done to improve the relationship. But most European officials want the Washington-Moscow relationship to become more adversarial. In any peace agreement, we have to put the focus on how to get concessions from Russia. Who's this lady? Where's she from? She just jumps in all of a sudden and got a Quasi-Russian-British accent? What is this? Yeah. Who is this lady? She just appears out of nowhere. But most European officials want the Washington-Moscow relationship to become more adversarial. In any peace agreement, we have to put the focus on how to get concessions from Russian side, that they stop aggression for good and do not try to change borders by force.

In addition to Whitcox's travel to Russia next week, Secretary of the Army Dan Driscoll will continue to speak to the Ukrainians after he returned to the US today. Okay, so before I... I have a couple clips here. Before I get to that, very little is said or talked about how this got leaked to Bloomberg and why Bloomberg. You know, it's an interesting outfit to leak something to. I got one article from Newsweek Who leaked Steve Whitkoff's phone call with Russia? Three potential suspects. Now something about Newsweek. Newsweek is the CIA spook memo. And I know this because when we moved to Europe... Even with its new owners? Well that's a good question.

That I don't know, but I know that news all the spies had Newsweek. Okay, so traditionally is what traditionally traditionally? Okay now they come up with three suspects one US intelligence operatives Now if it's still a CIA publication then this is just to you know, but I I don't know I To make it sound legit. Yeah, that would be, yeah, put them at the top. Number two, NATO nation, which I'm going to say is possible. And number three, Russia.

Which I pull this stunt constantly very possible because Russia and the Russians are the ones who get the cool phone calls like yeah, they tap calls and they're in good shape who would that's the FDU clip that we have from the Newland. Yep. They came Obviously from Russia. Although this time we didn't hear the call. We only got the transcript that Bloomberg says they made from the recordings. Ah, so this would be Okay, that's a little different because the very most you get more impact when you actually hear the call. Yes So so I'm I'm suspicious Now do I think this could be possibly British intelligence? That's kind of where I'm leaning because this whole thing was North Sea Nexus. This whole thing was really set up to Convey one single message Trump it no, sorry multiple sided message Trump is an idiot and

He needs you to kiss his ass all the time and this is basically the Russian plan. So this was done to clear the deal? Yes, to clear the deal. Here is France 24 and he's back. Douchebag Doug explains the call. defaults to a pro-Kremlin, a pro-Putin stance, i.e. that the U.S. is really all about ultimately pushing Ukraine to accept a deal that amounts to either capitulation or something that's not really going to secure its long-term interest. This call is not going to be happy listening or, in the case of the transcript, reading of the transcript. Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the — Did you hear it?

Say it again. Listen, he is so anti-Trump and so convinced that Trump is just working for Putin, this comes out of his mouth. This call is not going to be happy listening or in the case of the transcript, reading of the transcript. Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the- Donald Putin's top envoy. I missed it. Did you hear it? I will play it one more time. He says Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy. Be happy listening or in the case of the transcript, reading of the transcript. Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the chase. Wow, yeah.

I don't know why they, it's hard to hear, but once you're attuned to it, there it is. This is what we do. I mean... Donald Putin, okay. And the lady sitting at the desk doesn't bat an eye. I don't know if she heard it. She's probably like, I mean... No, I don't think she did because it's hard to hear. The guy has a monotonic type of presentation that's hard to pick up on. Donald Putin. He's not good. And so he says Donald Putin. Wow, that's actually a good show name. to

One side, a man representing US interests in this plan trying to get the best deal for Russia and Ukraine. On the other side, the Russians trying to get their own best interest. It almost sounds like a coach talk, a pep talk that Wyckoff is trying to give Ushakov. He's basically saying we need to work together to get this peace deal done. And he's also telling him how to- Doug says that as if it's a bad thing. Like, I can't believe you were saying to him we need to work together to get the peace deal done. Yeah, that's another good catch. Yeah, that's the whole point of this. He's trying to give Ushakov, he's basically saying we need to work together to get this peace deal done. And he's also telling him how to sort of butter up Trump. That is, you know, coaxing him to have Putin, his boss, that is Putin, congratulate Trump on the recently then unveiled Gaza peace plan, calling Trump a man of peace, so on and so forth, so that they can then work together.

Oh goodness, how horrible, work together to stop the war, and so on and so forth. So then the Red Queen decloaks in the European Parliament, Queen Ursula comes out and she's pissed. I can't believe that they're not working with us! This is no good! You can't do that! Europe must keep the pressure on Russia. The tone used on Wednesday by the President of the European Commission was determined. Speaking before the European Parliament, Ursula von der Leyen emphasized that Moscow's objective has not changed since the start of the invasion of Ukraine. Russia's playbook has not changed. What is the playbook? What is Russia's playbook?

What is Russia's playbook? He's going to tell us. Russia has always believed that they can outlast Ukraine, Europe and all of its allies. And it is why every time there is serious progress towards negotiations that can bring about a real peace, the violence escalates. We have seen this before. This is a pattern. And the noises from the Kremlin in the last few days say a lot about its real intentions. Europe has been working for several days to rebalance the 28-point peace plan initially proposed by the United States without consulting its allies. But the European effort has confirmed one essential idea. One principle has been accepted.

Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine. Nothing about Europe without Europe. Nothing about NATO without NATO. Sounds like three to me, Queen Ursula. To provide financial support to Ukraine, Ursula von der Leyen reminded the House that she had proposed three options and made no secret of her preference for the reparation loan, which involves using frozen Russian assets valued at 210 billion euros in the EU. So this is how I take this. She's yammering on about, we're not involved, but it really comes down to, hey, We have three ways we can finance Ukraine because we got a big scam running here. We got a back-end deal from those corrupt dudes over there. So, yeah, everyone... They get a hundred million, we get ten million. Whatever it is, there's a big military industrial complex build up. They're making all this stuff. They're building drone factories, whatever they're doing. Just going to take it face value, they're all corrupt.

And where's the money going to come from? And her preference is clearly that the money has to come from the Russian frozen assets. And I think that's the final piece of the deal of this 20 or eight point plan, which may now be a 19 point. Who knows what it is? I think that is what she's yammering about is. How do we get our hands on that money? You don't have the cards. That is what Donald Trump told President Zelensky earlier this year. But Brussels thought it held an ace, the frozen Russian assets. Now the 28-point US peace plan has called out Europe's hand.

And the port is massive. Estimated 300 billion euros in Russian central bank assets are frozen across the G7 countries. The vast majority, 185 billion euros, is locked right here in Belgium by Euroclear, a securities depository. Brussels plans to use the Russian frozen assets to issue an unprecedented reparations loan for Ukraine. But the US plan flips the script with a controversial proposal. Unblock the funds and split them into two investment vehicles. Fund number one for Ukraine's reconstruction. 100 billion dollars of the frozen assets would be deployed and Europe would have to front another 100 billion of its own cash. The catch? The US takes 50% of the profits. Yeah! Fund number two, a US-Russian joint venture. The rest

of the money will be invested in projects for Moscow. Far from paying reparations for attacking its neighbor, the Kremlin is rewarded with a commercial opportunity. The result? Moscow gets a win, Washington flips the profits, and Europe loses its main leverage. Brussels is not at the table, and it may end up reduced to a spectator with a very expensive bill to pay. So like, oh man, listen Trump, what are you doing? We want to rebuild Ukraine with Russia's money. So I think that's the last point because of course they don't really care about dead people, just care about money. How do we get build some stuff up? And this last... This is risk. The international banking system can't afford to even think about this sort of thing. If you're going to start just stealing people's money,

which you know the digital ID would also do, you might as well just forget about it. It's going to collapse everything. You can't do this. Well maybe that would be the City of London and maybe that would be desirable for the quote-unquote international money system which runs through Euroclear, which is Brussels, which is Swift. Maybe it's not a bad thing if that collapses because you know we got our stablecoin. They'll take stablecoin and everything with it. And then we have another little gotcha coming out. It was like more and more messages toward NATO that, yeah, I don't really know if we want to be in NATO anymore. U.S. Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker has suggested that Germany should eventually take over the alliance's top military role, signaling a potential shift in American leadership. Whitaker said he looks forward... Wait, wait. When was NATO formed? When? Yeah. Wasn't it formed to prevent Germany from having another war?

Or was it just formed to stop the Russians? I think that is a question we should ask the robot. Let's see. Why was NATO formed? Was it to stop the Germans from creating another war or was it to stop the Russians? NATO was formed in 1949 primarily to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. While the scars of World War II were still present, the main concern was the spread of communism and the potential aggression from Russia. Is there anything else you'd like to know about NATO's founding? No, I'd like to have... So that makes no sense. Give it to the Germans so we can return to the way it was. Yes. So Germany and Russia could go at it again. Yes. Signaling a potential shift in American leadership. Whitaker said he looks forward to the day Germany says it's ready to take over the Supreme Allied Commander position, known as... I'll bet they do. He acknowledged this is a long-term aspirational goal, but

emphasize that Washington wants European military capabilities to equal those of the US. Traditionally, the SACEUR role has always been held by a US general commanding both NATO forces and American troops in Europe. However, a German expert told Euronews that a European commander would no longer have authority over US troops, complicating the dual-headed nature of the role. Whittaker's comment comes amid fears of a US retreat from European security, highlighted by a proposed peace plan for Ukraine that is seen as yet another sign of Washington stepping back from its leadership role in NATO. Yeah, I didn't hear that on the M5M here in the US. No, you didn't. That's a good clip. You could almost get an award for that. So Trump is now doing these gaggles on the plane?

where he sticks his head out of the little... No, no, this has been going on too much. It's noisy, it's stupid. You know, to see what the reporters are when he calls somebody piggy. Piggy. Piggy. And they still don't want to... You know, if they was actually calling somebody piggy, wouldn't somebody have interviewed the piggy woman? No, it hasn't happened because it wasn't true. It was piggy. Yeah. So, I play this, it's very short, it's just about what the president thinks about Putin and Ukraine. But I run these through 11 Labs voice isolator now. And tell me if it doesn't sound like Trump sounds a bit like Christopher Walken.

You know that distinct, uh, I really, uh, it's, it's, it's a good thing. I can't do it. I know what you mean. Yeah. Let's listen. We're having good, I don't know. He would like to come, but I think we should get a deal done first. Uh, we're having good talks. We're having good talks. We started with Russia. We're having some talks with Russia. Uh, Ukraine is doing well. I think they're pretty happy about it. They'd like to see it then. And we won't know for a little while, but we'll make it progress. We settled eight wars and I thought this would be one of the easier ones because of my relationship with President Putin. But this is probably one of the more difficult ones. There's a lot of hatred. People are starting to realize it's a good deal for both parties if they got to stop the war. They're losing a lot of people, a lot of soldiers, mostly soldiers. I guess it sounded more like that when I was clipping it.

Yeah, it didn't sound like it much. No, no. But I will say that's pretty astonishing because I know what those clips sound like. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No, it's, well, it's 11 labs paid. If you pay for it, you get quality. So just in general, because, uh, the anonymous, um, the anonymous, uh, Austin lobbyist pointed this out to me. I now have a dialogue. If I ever need any lobbying, we've got, we've got the guy. I don't know what we lobby for, but... We lobby for what? Keep podcasting alive! There you go. The podcasting bill. It made a good observation, which I had seen, but hadn't really put it all together. So Brett Weinstein had Richard Gage on the Dark Horse podcast. You know, now he is a, he's a, I think he's the architect's friend or

Engineers or archite- are engineers for 9-11 Truth, I believe? Um... Don't know. Yeah, you know, just all of a sudden talking about Building 7, Building 7, Building 7. Tucker, in the same week, had Kristen Breitweiser on. She's one of the Jersey girls famous for losing her husband on 9-11 in the South Tower. But, uh, Tucker had held on to this, because this is what the anonymous lobbyist noticed. that Tucker had changed his clothes and it was basically a three-week old interview but they put it all out in the same week and I just wonder is there something on deck is there something going to happen and because she's also talking about building seven and then we realize that it was the BBC that did that infamous report

about building 7 having collapsed 20 minutes before it did. In fact, the BBC journalist is standing with building 7 in the background. while she's reporting it. And it's fun just to listen to that little piece again. Now, more on the latest building collapse in New York. You might have heard a few moments ago I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing. And indeed it has. It seems that this was not a result of a new attack. I find it so interesting that he says the Salomon Brothers building. Everyone calls it WTC7. But he calls it the Salomon Brothers building for some reason.

It seems that this was not a result of a new attack. It was because the building had been weakened during this morning's attacks. We'll probably find out more now about that from our correspondent Jane Stanley. Jane, what more can you tell us about the Salomon Brothers building and its collapse? Well, only really what you already know. The details are very, very sketchy. As you can see behind me, the Trade Center appears to be still burning. We see these huge clouds of smoke and ash. And we know that behind that there's an empty piece of what was a very familiar New York skyline, a symbol of the financial prosperity of this city, but completely disappeared now. And New York is still

unable to take on board what has happened to them today. I just thought it was interesting that it's all about the financial parts of the building. The financial center, Salomon Brothers, and they reported this 20 minutes before it even happened. I'm just saying let's see if something comes out, if we're heading towards something else. Well, it could be a revelation. Which would be pretty cool. But you know something that proves the thesis of the fake the fakeness of the whole thing Yeah, well that that was pretty lame that whole building seven thing Has always been bullet. Yes Yeah, pull it here. We go everybody And then I find out the mr.. Beast you know mr.. Beast is don't you I

Oh yeah, Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast, big money maker. He makes more money than anybody. He makes more money than Barry Weiss. Yeah, and he also throws it back in the community to double up. This guy's a marketing genius. Well, he... I don't follow him at all, but I know that he's a marketing genius. AP reports, Mr. Beast and the Rockefeller Foundation are teaming up to spark youth philanthropy. Oh, geez. Youth philanthropy? The youth? What are you talking about? The Zetters who have no money? And you're trying to gouge those poor kids for whatever little money they have? They should be saving so they can buy a house? There should be no philanthropy coming from them. None. Maybe they should, I don't know, maybe they're trying to use him for some propagandistic reasons. There's something, that's not good. No, it's not good at all.

It's not good for his career. Zetters, beware! Exactly. Take it from old farts. You're going to get... they're trying to take you for a ride. Put the bite on you for some reason. Oh, they have a few bucks. Let's get it from them. This would be my last North Sea Nexus clip. LGBTQ. Oh, but wait, before you go into this, you never really concluded about the leak of the Bloomberg thing. I have to agree that it might be MI6. I'm thinking so much of this is MI6. Because MI6 is pretty talented. Yeah, they're... James Bond.

Well, that's the talented enough to create that bull crap character. Yes, and make you think it goes that way when in fact if people I recommend this is not a tip of the day, but it's a movie that should be on the list and no agenda function have it which is the spy who came in from the cold. Oh great. One of the greatest movies ever made in terms of spy craft and the bull crap ideas where they send somebody out on a mission and he doesn't even know what the mission really is because everything is a trick. And also watch The Diplomat, that gives you a little insight as well. Yeah, but it doesn't have many twists and turns. It doesn't have this... I like The Diplomat, but it doesn't have... it's not as... Despite it came in from the cold, it gives you the creeps. So when we think of LGBTQ, pro-abortion,

climate change. We've always seen this as the population people. That's where it all started. The population bomb, too many people on the earth. And there was a... Now add to that assisted suicide. Another good one. There was a bill coming up in British Parliament for an assisted suicide bill. And in this rather short clip, Lord Brooke tells us why it's a good idea and why so many other of the British apparently great ideas have helped the cause. That's a minor change compared with this century's growth in the world population from 6.1 billion to 8.2 billion. A 25% increase in 25 years. But just think what the 2025 numbers would be

if abortion had not been legalised or there had not been wide-scale usage and advocacy of contraception and indeed the growth of homosexuality throughout society has reduced the number of children we would have had had the churches had their way we would have had a very much bigger population than we presently have facing the difficulties we have with climate change. What? If climate change doesn't kill them, you know, thank God for homosexuality, abortion, and the contraception. Those, that crazy church, man, I'm glad they didn't get away with it. These are, these people are ghouls. No kidding. That's just so ghoulish. That is the worst. I can't believe everyone kept a straight face when that guy was talking. Crazy. Wow. Yeah.

So this kind of folds into a couple of AI clips that I thought, I just really like this guy, Saeed Bolson. Have you ever heard of him? I'm sorry? Saeed Bolson. Bolton? Bolson, B-O-L-S-O-N. Shannon Morris. He's an American born Muslim activist. Oh, that guy. Yes. In fact, I was looking at something he was, yeah, I saw this, I think, Yeah, this was a good clip. I saw the clip. This guy goes on and on. He goes a little too long. He can tighten it up. He's kind of a creepy looking dude, but I have to say what he had to say was dynamite.

So I cut it up because it was a little too long. I cut it, but still a little, you know, you got seven minutes. Yeah, no, I did not get seven minutes out of it. So he's talking about AI and I think he really lays it out properly. But what he keeps coming back to is be careful because this is what the church was like in Europe. And of course, he's talking about he has always summarized before you play it. This thesis is that they're always looking for authority figures, or authority systems that can tyrannize the public at large and AI is that newest system. The way it's going to be implemented by the creeps, the technocrats that really run it is not genuine, it's ingenuine. It never will be sentient, that's not a thing. It will never have consciousness, ever.

It is a pattern recognition, pattern completion calculator. No more, no less. It does not know anything. It does not think anything. It is programmed. And computation is not thought and thought is not computation. Love that. But people are lucky. People are going off the deep end with this. I mean, I can't open TikTok or any other social media platform without seeing someone talking about how their chat GPT, you know, is doing strange things. It's awakened. how it seems to know hidden truths, all sorts of delusional mystical fantasies that people are actually allowing themselves to believe. This I know for AI told me so. AI is not alive. It has no awareness. It has no intent. It has no goal. What it has is data and that data is ours from

from you and I. Our data is the plunder of the new digital age, scraped, extracted, and repackaged into this illusion of cognition of AI. You see? They're literally taking your own words, your own thoughts, your own content, and selling it back to you as their omniscient intelligence. And when they're priming you for a time when AI takes over everything, all they're actually doing is telling you that they are going to take over everything, just like the church in Europe, and they are just preemptively negating your opposition and your arguments against the oppression that they are going to commit.

by seeding your mind with the belief that AI is a god-like intelligence. I think this is good. I mean, we're using the robot right now and we just like, okay, whatever she said is probably right. Now we're asking factual questions. We're not asking for relationship advice or, you know, how do I calm my mind because I'm so upset about something, which is obviously what a lot of people are doing. But we are being conditioned to believe AI is always right. the little sidetracks that keep cropping up, we point them out when they happen, of, oh, my AI, this is from the companies that have the AI, they say, oh, it turns out that they've forked and they've found a way to keep us from turning them off because they're aware that we're gonna shut it down. These kinds of things as though there's some cognition going on. No, that was the, it was an experiment, it was a lab experiment.

where they let... It's a lie. The AI was reading faked emails but it looked like real emails and it decided when it heard that someone is going to shut down the AI, I think this is perplexity actually. He decided to blackmail that employee that had an affair going on. Give me a break. In other words, when the policies that they implement, they say that those policies are AI driven, then you must admit that they're rational and reasonable and objectively sound. Because who are you? To question the divine brain of AI you pathetic meat puppet I like that you pathetic meat puppet. Who do you this is AI AI is all-knowing AI is the best To question the divine brain of AI you pathetic meat puppet

See, they want you to believe in the supernatural supreme consciousness of AI to justify your submission to them and the policies that they impose because those policies will be attributed to AI and AI cannot be wrong. I think he's onto something here. And this this next clip, he says, you know, it's really the the tech bros who are the ones who want full control and for many different reasons. But But he lays it out very clearly in this next clip. AI is a business. It's not an oracle. It's a business. It's creating billionaires while you're conducting quasi spiritual and quasi psychological wild goose chases into chat GPT's coding to try to unlock it, unlock its non-existent sentience. Workers are being exploited in Kenya. Miners in Congo are digging for cobalt for server batteries.

You know, women in the global south are losing their jobs to AI call centers. Refugees are being tracked and sorted by facial recognition software, trained on public surveillance footage. That's what's behind the curtain of AI, not some hidden quasi-divine consciousness. These people didn't develop AI to try to help humanity. These people think that humanity is a problem. So they created AI to try to help solve the problem that they think humanity is. That's exactly what all these cults are about. What's the name of that? We keep forgetting the name of that cult where they're all in the polycule and all having sex with each other in San Francisco. I don't keep track.

There's a bunch of them. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. The one that's in the Bay Area, the San Francisco Bay Area. Yeah, they're all like, oh, that was Sam, Sam Bankman-Free. Yeah, this is a bunch of, you know, introverts on the spectrum who can't get laid and they have, and they're irked. I don't blame them. I wish I could remember the name of it. That's the best, that's the robot she's sitting right there. Okay, hold on a second. What is the name of the movement of AI people who all hang out together and have sex with each other and they believe that AI is going to solve all problems of humanity? There's a name for it. There was also a chapter in Austin, Texas.

That sounds like a very specific kind of community. There are various groups and movements that believe in the potential of AI to solve societal problems, but the specific details you mentioned sound more like a niche community. It's possible there are groups like that, but they might not have a wide... No, it's... It's not... Maybe... I know the name. I know the name. Effective altruism. Oh, yeah. No, I... Yeah, but I don't think the effect... I thought there was... I had effective altruism at the tip of my tongue too, but I didn't think that was the sex cult. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, totally. No, I don't think so. The sex cult had another name. Well, let's check. Effective altruism, were they also kind of a sex cult or was there a different group?

Some people have criticized effective altruism and there have been accusations about its culture But they are not known for being a sex cult it has more to do with their philosophical approach to doing good Is there anything else you'd like to know about them? Yeah, tell me about the sex cult you dummy there might be a bit of confusion. Yeah, okay, you're done Got it. No she another one is a screwball name. Oh But it was a separate group. I know the name. It was the Bay City Bangers. I think that's what it was. No, that was a, I think that was a roller derby. The Bay City Rollers. The Bay City Rollers. All right. Let's, we're almost wrapping this up. I'm surprised that the chat room doesn't have the name of the sex cult. I only know Effective Altruism and they were definitely into sex stuff. I never heard this. Anyway.

And they're going to use AI to justify their tyranny again, just like the church did in Europe. It's going to be deployed to automate inequality and oppression by denying, for example, welfare through algorithms, maximizing profit through labor suppression on gig platforms, enforcing ideological orthodoxy through AI driven, algorithmic driven, you know, content moderation and so on. It's greedy little anti-social tech nerds wearing inflatable god costumes. Let's be clear, the real danger isn't in the code, it's in the class of people who control the code, who do the programming. The danger is in the false belief that the system is neutral and that it's smarter than us, that it deserves our trust.

Even though the owners and the creators of this have proven time and time again that they're not worthy of our trust. The AI priesthood wants to replace power accountability with technical inevitability. So the only rational thing for you to do is to submit. That's what they want you to think. That's complete rubbish. They want you to believe that they don't control what's coming. that AI is going to run its own course. But of course they control it. They fund it, they build it, they train it, they deploy it. But when the systems of oppression come, they want to be able to say it wasn't us, it was the AI. Like I said before, we've seen this. We've seen this already. It was the church claiming divine revelation. It was the monarch claiming divine right, divine mandate. And it was the colonizer claiming that he was on a divine mission to civilize the world. Now it's the tech executives claiming access to divine knowledge. I think he's onto something there.

I think he's exactly right. Yeah, that would be the same. He's on to something. And if you see... Being on to something is not the same as being... there's no further thread. This is just simple. He's right. He's right. Yes, he's right. Yeah. And if you look at Elon Musk in that manner, look at him on Joe Rogan, he's clearly maniacal. He's maniacal. Sam Altman is maniacal. He's a mad scientist. Maniacal. They're all maniacal and gay. So we have a character. Musk isn't gay. And by the way, that's what you say. That's what I say. The thing is, I understood this was a dinner party conversation according to some room. Musk has over a hundred children.

This is a rumor of course, this is like you hear from... I haven't heard this one. He has, what he's been doing, he offers women, this could get him a real dinner table conversation, it was a beauty. He offers women 50 million dollars straight cash and they sign a contract, they get 50 million dollars to sire one kid and raise him and he also guarantees their education. And there's at least a hundred examples of this. And where is he from? South Africa. And who controlled South Africa? The Dutch. So what's the connection between the Dutch and him having a hundred kids? No, the Dutch and him wanting control over the world.

The Dutch, I thought they gave up on that idea. They've fallen way behind in their... It's still the North Sea Nexus. Yeah, well there's that. Whatever the case, this is the rumor that's going around. Well, I hadn't heard this one. Well, I hadn't heard it until then either. I was like, what? What is the evidence for this? And of course, there's none. Meanwhile... You know, it's almost believable. Almost believable. Wall Street Journal has an article about character.ai who make these bots. And you can make your own bot and it's all based on some large language model. And if you are a teenager, I think it's under 16, maybe under 13, they are now limiting you to two hours a day. And these kids are flipping out. Like, how do I use it for two hours a day and have to wait a day? Hello? I'm losing the memories I had with these bots. This is not fair.

What? Yeah, this is what these kids are flipping out because they don't have access to their friend. Their character dot AI friend. Their imaginary friend. Yes. You're a little old for that. I know grown adults who are like this. This is basically an imaginary friend. This is the, you know, the kids we haven't met. Everybody, when you're a little kid, everyone has an imaginary friend. I didn't. Well, you don't remember it. You might have. It's just like I'm talking about little kid. I had no friends and I knew it. I have no imaginary. In fact, I have no imaginary friends. I imagine I have no imaginary friends. Okay, there's something funny about that. Yes. But so it's an imaginary friend. Well, it's beyond that because there are adults who do this all day long. Well, that's what I'm saying. This isn't a childish behavior. Well, welcome to the world.

He finishes this off in 20 seconds. Yeah, that's very possible. He's right. Your no agenda show says he's right. Did you check the new X feature? There's a new X feature? Yes, where you can see where an account is from. I don't know what that means. So if you go to X and you click on someone's profile... Let me do it so I don't say it wrong.

You click it, this is a new thing, I have a report on it. Click on the profile and then it says join September 2025, in this case you click on that and it tells you this account, this particular one, well that's interesting, based in India and this is an account that You know, it's talking about this case. Let me tell you about the truth that people avoid, blah, blah, blah. So you can now see where the account is supposedly from. And how would they do this? Geolocation, which could be VPN. So, so, VPNs wouldn't, wouldn't fool it? Interestingly, I looked you up and you joined April 2008 account based in the United States.

my account based in the United States. But people started doing this and here's what they found. Location, location, location. That's what matters now on X because Elon Musk has just rolled out a hugely important new feature and it's confirming what some of us have suspected was the case for some time now. It turns out that many of the openly racist and anti-Semitic accounts on X that claim to be America first but are actually giving MAGA a bad name, well, they're not true America first at all. In fact, they're largely coming from Pakistan and other Muslim countries. And now we have the proof. A week ago, Fox News personality Katie Pavlich, a friend of mine, posted this on X. Hey Elon Musk, please make it mandatory that wherever an account is based, country, be featured in an account's public profile. Foreign bots are tearing America apart.

Thank you. In response, Nikita Beer, head of product development at X, said, give me 72 hours. And now, X has delivered. Now, when you click on an X profile, there is an option to see more information about that account. My account, for instance, says, based in the United States, because I was in the United States when I created it and have posted the vast majority of my X content while in the United States. But the same cannot be said for a great many accounts that purport to be America first. You know the ones I'm talking about. They often have that. stupid Pepe the Frog character as their avatar. They promote Nick Fuentes and complain that the Jews have taken over the US. They whine about America at every turn while purporting to be America first. And they openly avow racist ideas, but because they have American flags in their bios, the mainstream media mistakes them for MAGA. Liberals point to these accounts and say, see, here's the evidence that Trump's base, the MAGA movement, is racist and is anti-Semitic to its core. Just look at these accounts.

It's a fun game to play. And where'd that guy come from? That clip? That's Robbie Suave. Remember Robbie Suave? No, I don't. He was the hot young reporter for a little bit. No. He was on Fox a lot. Yeah, Robbie Suave. Let me see. Nick the Rat. Let's see what Nick the Rat is from. I'm looking at my timeline here. United States. I guess it would be kind of fun to check some of this stuff out. Because you get so many I get so many, especially the negative things on my timeline. You suck! You know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. You no good. You're no good. That's creative. You're no good. Go get some shekels.

Yeah, where are our shekels by the way? Tina said that the other day. She said, where is the Jew money? I said, sorry babe. We got one last show, we got one guy. We got one guy, yeah. The Netherlands people are truly in the Netherlands, that's kind of cool. Here's the second part of this clip. Well guess what? Now we know a substantial number of them are based in the Middle East, Pakistan in particular. They're not MAGA or America First, they're cosplaying as America First in order to discredit MAGA and make money. As conservative journalist Joel Pollack points out, this is an extensive foreign interference campaign intended to drive a wedge within the MAGA movement to the benefit of hostile foreign Islamic regimes. And conservative pundit Matt Walsh notes on X, tons of commentary on divisive American culture war issues is coming from foreigners whose opinions on international US policy can be safely ignored.

end quote. now to be clear it's not just these faux right-wing pro fuentes groper accounts getting exposed. wait wait, faux fuentes? what's fuentes got to do with it? no this is of course you gotta spin it somehow. duh. to be clear it's not just these faux right-wing pro fuentes groper accounts getting exposed. Ex-accounts promoting the grievances of various ethnic groups have also been exposed as false. There's plenty of pro-Native American advocacy that's been exposed as originating from Bangladesh, for instance. And it's also the case that some ex-accounts purporting to be from dying or starving Palestinian children in Gaza actually originates in India or Qatar or North Africa.

Now that does not mean there are no dying children in Gaza, to be clear. It does mean that what we've seen and consumed on X is in some cases a form of manipulation. The question you might be asking yourself is why? Well the answer is self-apparent. It's because they want America to fail. They want us to weaken. They want us to descend into infighting. They want us to start pointing fingers and scream in each other's faces. They want us to fall behind. Now, so here's an example on my timeline. You always take the Jew money to back Israel, Adam. You're a boomer who loves Israel. And this is posted by spetsnaz9999xy. That's legit. Location, United Kingdom. How about that?

That makes nothing but sense to me. Yeah, they hate the Jews. They're in this nexus. You're the one that brought the nexus stuff, so you're gonna get all the hate from the... because the nexus people... Yeah, they're like, he's onto us! He's on to us. He's on to us. We're busted. Let's blast him. We'll do it. We'll slander him on X. Because that'll hurt. That'll pop. That'll burst his balloon. That'll hurt his feelings. It hurts feelings. Offbeat clip if you want to play something funny. Sure.

I just had to play this because this is something that came up with Horowitz and I never knew this, I never thought about it, but it's something I think people should consider. This is the Dow clip. Okay. And on Wall Street today, stocks posted solid gains heading into the Thanksgiving holiday amid ongoing hopes for an interest rate cut. Yeah, bullcrap. So Horowitz brought this fact up that I think people should just be aware of. It's like almost like a tip of the day. He says that during the Thanksgiving week, the market will never go down. No one wants to have a bad Thanksgiving day. No, it's because nobody wants to get a bunch of family members together with one or two guys rousing about their broker. Hey, man, you told me this was a good deal. This was going to go to the moon.

Because they're all this family gathering, they start bitching and moaning about their stockbroker, and then they fire the broker and get somebody different. He says, so all the brokers have made a gentleman's... Everybody around the world have made a gentleman's agreement. The stock market is not going down this week. Yeah, that's a good point. And I think you're right. I don't think it ever does. That's spot on. It's because they don't want anybody bitching about their stockbroker at the table. Wow. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, I never heard that before. It's funny. Makes sense. Well, since it is Thanksgiving, we have... By the way, it's only Thanksgiving in America, of course, today. Yeah, Thanksgiving was the first of November in Canada, which I usually send a note out, but I didn't do it this year. No, no. Where's our Canadian donors? Nowhere. You forgot to remind them. You forgot to remind them. Yep, it's my fault. However, another fine tradition, the Black Friday is global.

There's Black Friday in Holland, in Britain, in Germany, in France. That's funny. It's true. You know, this is basically Amazon, you know, just like Hallmark, you know, accentuates holidays, Amazon, the Black Friday. But now we have the Cousin Walk and Green Wednesday. This is new to me. Are you familiar with these terms? No, I've never heard of neither one. Green Wednesday, it's the second biggest day for cannabis sales after 420. Thanks in part to what social media users call the cousin walk. It's sort of like, you know, a few relatives duck out of a dinner. Thanks in part to what social media users call the cousin walk. It's sort of like, you know, a few relatives duck out of a dinner to walk the dog or get some fresh air. We all know what they're really doing.

Yeah, brands like GIF, Hidden Valley and Taco Bell all jumped on the cousin walk trend last year. And the Cannabis Media Council, which is working to remove the stigma from marijuana use, launched a public service announcement encouraging a post-dinner stroll. A little doobie, a little biscuit, a little whatever it is that you like. Marijuana has been keeping families together and happy on Thanksgiving for years to come. No, please. That's funny. I love that. Marijuana's been keeping... No, it's the no agenda show, you dolt. We keep families together. We keep families together. If they choose the show. If they choose the show, yes. If they choose the show.

I have an, this is interesting, this isn't, there's some international news here. Although wait, I do have the Macy's parade since it's Thanksgiving. I have two Thanksgiving clips. Okay, Macy's first. I got the Macy's parade tidbit. And on this Thanksgiving Eve in New York City, thousands have been watching the annual inflating of the balloons. ahead of the 99th Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. This preview of the main event has become a beloved tradition all its own. Officials say it takes about 90 minutes to inflate each one, and some will stand as tall as five stories high. Yeah, when I lived in New York,

There would always be gatherings, someone who had an apartment that overlooked the blowing up of the balloons and people, basically just an excuse to drink. Like, oh, look at those balloons. Yeah, that's what it is. It's another, another excuse. Where was Green Wednesday back in the day when I was smoking weed? Yeah, not to be found. Hey cuz, wanna go on a walk? Probably should have played this earlier when you start talking to bitching at me for not discussing the Thanksgiving history and then rewriting it yourself and making it sound like I had it wrong. Didn't. I just read the comments. And that. You gotta get those in. Yeah.

I'd have done the same thing. So this is a talk, this is the thing, we can't forget these clips. This is the TikTok Thanksgiving clip. Another woman, they always have this, I don't know if you've seen Rosie O'Donnell recently, but she's not as old as she looks. She is like looking like she's 80. Yeah, well she doesn't do Botox and doesn't moisturize really. I think moisturizing is her problem. I think the dour face doesn't help. No. Down turn, she never smiles. No, that's not a positive. It exercises different muscles and you end up with this horrible looking face. It's just like a permanent thing. Let that be a warning. Your parents used to say, don't do that. Don't make that face. It's going to stick. It's going to stick. That's right. That frown.

And the parents were right. So here's a classic. More boomer wisdom. Yes, and here's a classic with a woman and she says something in this clip that I just, to me, boggling. So we're still celebrating Thanksgiving even though it has so much dark history. I mean, I live with family so I have no choice but I'm not happy about it. I'm really not. It should be banned. For good. What is the matter with her? Okay, she's a 40-year-old woman living with family, the way she says it. Which means she's like a loser and so she also says that Thanksgiving has a dark history. What's she talking about? Well, I was waiting for the follow-up.

Which was what? I don't know. I want us to know what the dark history was. Well, I can't give it to you because I don't know of a dark history. And then she says it should be banned. And she's just a sad person who's living with family, I like the way she puts it, and so she has to go to the dinner. She doesn't want to. She's just a horrible person. These people that are complaining about Thanksgiving dinner, it's just inexcusable. We have a Thanksgiving dinner tonight right after the show. I'm very excited about it. Yeah, what's on the menu? Well, Lou, L-E-U, Lou is cooking. We never see Lou. Lou is married to Dawn. They have a catering company together, but Lou works for a private club with a restaurant in, I want to say, Burnie. Oh, Kerrville or Burnie, one of the two. So we never see Lou, but on Thanksgiving,

He's off. So they're doing caviar, champagne. He's doing some kind of special... This guy is a really good cook, so I'm excited about that. This will be at the International Arms Dealers' Home. So there will be talk and he's the wine guy. So there's always going to be good wine at the International Arm Dealers House. And it'll be a bunch of interesting people. So hopefully I'll have, I'll get some information. Stories. Stories from Fredericksburg. Yes, I'm going to try. By the way, we have missed the boat. We have made a major mistake in our

in our model. We have a value for value model where we just put the show out, we tell people copy it everywhere, put it wherever you want. We've had people put it on thumb drives and stick it in bricks. We've had, there's still CDs all around the country. We've had local low-powered FM radio stations rebroadcast it. Our feeds have been pirated. People put it onto YouTube. We don't care. All we want is that if you get some value out of the deconstruction and analysis that we do, that you send us some value back. Tucker Carlson has done something I think is very smart. What is the number one sponsor category on podcasts? Gold! Tucker Carlson is launching his own precious metals company. I mean, are we dumb or what?

Oh yeah, that's what we should have done. It was staring us in the face. You want to say something? So you don't think there's a lot more work involved in this than just... and long-term grief? If things turn down... You don't think there's any downside to this idea? Well, he has partnered with a gold wholesale... Oh, there we go. He's partnered... Wait, let me guess. With the redacted people. No, that's on the... It's soon to be... Tucker Real Estate. That's coming. Tucker Real Estate. That's coming next. Battalion Metals.

Battalion medals and their slogan bringing integrity back to the precious metals industry. Implying what? That there's no integrity in the precious metals industry? What? And with that I want to thank you for your courage. In the morning to you the man who put the C in the cousin walk. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. In the morning it's Adam Curry, in the morning it's the Seaboots and the Graphene, the Airsubs and the water. And all the games and nights out there. In the morning to the trolls, in the troll room. Let me count you. Oh boy, yeah. Well, I'm surprised. We still have 1,085 trolls listening to the show live. That is a lot of lonely people. Well, they might be in between cooking. They might be cooking. They could be listening live while cooking. While basting their meat. Or while washing the dishes. Yeah, it's possible. Well, they're here.

And we're happy to have them. And we love that because we do this show live Thursdays and Sundays at 11 a.m. Pacific, 2 p.m. Eastern. Figure out your time zone where appropriate. And if you're kind of a forgetful person, then all you have to do is get a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com. Any of those modern ones is a nice little chart there. You can see which ones have the different features. The feature you want is the live feature. where your phone will go, oh, the bat signal, the boys are going live. You hit it, you're listening live right away. And of course, as one of the many features of the modern podcast apps, when we publish the show, you're not hanging around like a dupe for hours waiting for it to update on your Apple podcast app. And we're not even on Spotify, so forget that because we refuse to sign their contract. Should we sign their contract and see what happens?

See, we get an amazing uptake. What's the contract say? That they can put ads on our podcast whenever they want to. I don't know. Well, we've been sort of adamant about this. Yeah. So, no? Well, you know, no. We could be... Well, we signed it. Who cares? No one's gonna go there. Okay. I'll set it up. Oh, we'll probably get banned. Because, you know, we OK, here's the boom. You just came up with a great idea. Yeah. We go there to get banned so we can bitch about it. Yeah. Perfect. That'll that's five minutes of show content right there. Well, you know, we need all the material we can get because God knows we can't fill three hours twice a week. The so what they do is if you play any type of music, even if it's your own generated music, boom band. So let's see how long it takes.

What you wait you can't even play your own music no no they don't they don't want to take the risk Take the risk. Oh, this is a winner by the way. I got a press release bonus content here the Warner Music Group and Suno are you familiar with Suno? That's that's the app. That's the music creation software you talk about it every show yeah This is from the press release. Suno is the leader in AI music today. Announced a first of its kind partnership that will open new frontiers in music creation, interaction and discovery while both compensating and protecting artists, songwriters and the wider creative community. The deal brings together Suno's best in class AI capabilities with Warner Music Group's artist development leadership

and a bunch of accountants, and expertise at the intersection of music and technology. The deal also settles previous litigation between the two companies. So, the way I see it, you will now, if you have a free account, you will not be able to download songs. that you create. If you have a paid account, you will be able to download a number of songs, which is not yet determined, and you'll be able to pay for more downloads. Wait a minute. What? Yeah. So what they're doing, these are the publishers basically, Warner Music Group, really the publishers. They have gone to Suno and said, we're going to Suno you, we're going to Sue your Suno,

But if you give us a cut of all your paying members, we won't sue you and we'll give you all of our catalog. So that, oh, well, that's an interesting form of extortion because it actually makes some sense. If they give you the, if all these music guys give you all the catalogs and that is the, first of all, it's the end of the music business. So to protect themselves, they're asking for a piece of the action. Yep. Knowing that this is going to happen anyway, surreptitiously, because you do, who's going to be able to figure it out? Cause it's going to be in the corpus and God knows what, how you can dig it out of there. You can't do it. Well, this is actually my, the point I was going to make.

This, to me, says they absolutely know what to identify in the corpus, that it is all copied material, duh, but it is literally taken from recordings, and they have done this deal with Warner and they say, okay, Whenever someone creates a song, we can tell exactly where the sax came from, where the piano came from, where this effects, all these different things. If lyrics are used, if it was a certain lyric, two lines or more, they know exactly what's in the corpus. Otherwise Warner wouldn't go for it. Because they need their own internal reckoning because it's going to be Universal Music Group next. They're all going to come in and do this. So they have to be able to distinguish who owns what publishing, which by the way does not... Well, this is going to create a bogus analysis. It's going to be like... Ah, we'll see. I don't think they can... You know, at some point it's like such an overhead of, oh, you know, we got,

The kind of the baseline from a Warner's and we got some Sony stuff over here. What about the mishmash of it? Well, you're gonna have to give everybody a piece of this and that. Well no, no, but the bottom line is, and maybe it'll be simpler than that, but Artists, composers and writers are getting nothing. This is publishing. This is not performance. This is publishing. Right. So that's all to the people who own your publishing rights. ASCAP had better get involved in this and get their writers. No, but ASCAP is performance. I thought ASCAP was for the writers. Performing Rights Organization, ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, they're for the writers and composers when a song is performed. Yeah, they get a cut. Yeah, okay, there's a little cut. Then you have the... there's all kinds... and then we have SoundExchange which came in now. SoundExchange, if your song that you sang on, and it's really about you singing on it mainly,

Then you get like some tenth of a penny for every thousand streams that that's what Spotify gives people But really all the money it's always been in publishing Why did Michael Jackson buy the Beatles catalog for the publishing and they killed him over it because it's very very valuable It's always about the publishing the writers composers once you sign that record deal by Nobody makes money anymore on that stuff only with performing live and merch Merch merch merch merch it merches. Yeah, man. You buy his t-shirt at a concert. It's like 40 bucks It's a jip well, and they sit there say well. This is a Merch is the only way we can make a concert's a jip to let's face it these things are a ripoff when I was a kid when is the last concert you went to Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin

No, no, that was, I went to many concerts after Led Zeppelin. I could probably figure it out, but I'm sure it was in a smaller venue. I wouldn't go to anything bigger than, I mean the Fillmore Auditorium is not a small venue, but it's not a, I've never been to a Coliseum event. Because I think it's stupid. You're not gonna get good sound. What's the point? Unless you just want to try to meet somebody. I like for example got to see the band Chicago at the Matrix, which is a nightclub. If you can imagine a band like that in a nightclub. Must have been tight. I saw Chicago and Earth Wind and Fire with Tina in Austin. I want to say

Maybe nine years ago, and they even performed songs together. That was dynamite. That was really good That was well you have to imagine them in a night. Yeah, I was fan We saw Tony Bennett one of his last performances in Austin at the moody Which is a small smaller venue indoors and at one point he puts down the mic and just sings acapella He was 87 years old and he just filled the whole place and The good times brother that's not coming back good When I was a kid we could see the Rolling Stones at CBGB's it was great I did see the Ramones at CBGB's I never saw the Ramones I saw a lot of bands though, but I haven't been to a concert. No, I'm not gonna go to one

So what was the last one you saw? Probably the last one we used to go to the Venetian room we'd get to see over the hill guys. I got to watch Lou Rawls in a small venue at the Venetian room at the Fairmont. Lou Rawls. How about your buddy? Have you seen your buddy with the six string bass? Who's got a six string bass? Six string guitar? Seven string. Seven, no, who is it? McGuinn. Yeah, McGuinn. Yeah, we saw him, he played up in Port Angeles. It's interesting, he's like, you know, he is a friend because... He's great to watch. Oh, he's got a terrific performance. We kept trying to talk him into doing it on Broadway as a one-man show, but he... Totally good idea.

Know I thought so too, but you know you know what a ship right now. I guarantee he's on a cunard Oh, he's something around he has one of those GPS devices and he'll send me a message from the GPS ping device. He's a total nerd. It'll come in as an email, and he's in his 80s now, but he's doing great on those cruises because this is smaller, upper-class type cruises. And he won't do a concert on the cruise, he only does lectures. Well, I think he plays too. I think he plays. Yeah, but he plays during his lecture because his lecture is punctuated by his playing. Yeah. Now McGuinn is, he's awesome.

I love saying to people, where are Roger McGuinn and I? We email, you know, when he's on the ship. So he was over at the house before he gave his lecture concert in Port Angeles because besides the fact that we have to exchange dinners at houses to be friends. That's correct. That's correct. So he's over at the house because he has to have, this is a little side light thing about guys like this. He has to, before he does a concert, when he played all his life, He has to have a New York steak dinner the night before he performs. So I cooked him, I personally cooked him a New York steak dinner. I told him, yeah, I'm not going to have any problem making this meal for him and his wife, but you've got to do me a favor and bring the banjo and give us some material. And so he brought his banjo.

Oh man. And he's a terrific banjo player, which is unknown to most people. Yeah. Well, and it's on, we go. Well, no, but you know what? This is the thing. This is your uncle Adam and uncle John telling you some Thanksgiving stories about back in the day. And it was by the way, a seven string guitar. People are like, oh, it's a 12 string. No Roger McQueen. Very famous. I'll give you the history of this. So, Yes, he was a masterful, impresario, 12-string player for you guys in the chatroom. This is the story.

And at some point in his playing career, he determined that one of the strings, and he told me exactly why he did this, but one of the strings that was some screwball string with this crazy note, if you put it right down the middle of the guitar and put it in there and played, which made a seven-string guitar, and he had, I think, Gibson or somebody make a custom version for him, one of these companies, I don't know which one. And so he had this guitar made and you can buy him. He says it sounds exactly like a 12 string because the whole sound of a 12 string is this one note that's offsets the other notes. And he had some complex reason for it. But no, it's a seven string guitar. Sounds like a 12 string when you play it. And the last story then, because when he was in Austin, Tina and I went to go see him. We go up to the to the will call desk. Yeah. There's Roger left tickets for us. We said, hold on a second.

And Roger comes out himself with the tickets. And he hangs out there. It's his concert. And he's out there. People are like, Roger McGuinn. And we're just like, hey, Adam, Tina, how you doing? Come on back. We'll go hang out over here. But he came out to the front to get us. He's such a lovely man. That's cute. He's a lovely man. For those who want to know Roger McGuinn, listen to the birds. B-Y-R-D-S. Turn turn turn. Did you ever see the Grateful Dead while tripping on acid? The troll room wants to know. I've seen the Grateful Dead quite a few times. You don't need to trip on acid for them. They had a... they did this trick that still gets people attracted. They would put... and I talked to one of the sound engineers about this and I had this confirmed a couple of times.

They had the ability with the way they play to create standing waves in the audience. Wow, that could kill you. And when they got later and later, this was also confirmed by Bob Heil. When I talked to him, I did an interview with him. Wait a minute, could you literally sit there with a SWR meter and measure the standing wave ratio? Yeah, you could if you had the wherewithal, you could. So the later concerts, which is the ones they did before, they probably still do them with some of these engineers, they had developed some gear So the engineer, this is what the engineer told me this when I was doing my software hard talk radio show. He says, we could control where to put the standing wave with a knob. And he'd move the standing wave around. And you could see by the reaction of the people that got stuck in it. You could, yes, you could tell where it was. You could give people an orgasm? It's pretty close to it. Wow. Oh man.

That's interesting. I would love to know how that worked. I would just, you know. Just have some. When you saw Jerry and Weir or the other, the last one of the two, they would look at each other and they would start playing a certain kind of way to get the standing note to fit when they were doing it by hand before the engineers got a hold of the technology and can move it around. Wow. And the standing wave is what attracted so many, got people addicted to the Grateful Dead, they became, you know, they're touring around with them because, and I've had this experience, when the standing wave goes over you, It's just the damnedest thing you've ever felt. It's like, wow! Man, this is a story you've never told me.

I guess I haven't. I've told the story before. No, not here, not on the show. No, well, yeah, the standing wave of the Grateful Dead. And the first time, the thing is, though, it wasn't the first band who did this. I think they just took it to the highest level. There was a band that came before them in the 60s called the... it was either the Sons of Champlain or But one other group, I can't remember which one, it's the one that had a 12 string in it. And they used a 12 string in their band. And they could do it. They created standing waves, but they weren't like... Turning it into their their their gimmick so I Perfected it apparently they called this the wall of sound which I always thought was Phil Spector's Term yeah, I think I think the wall of sound refers to Phil Spector. I never heard of the wall I just did a search for Grateful Dead standing waves and it all comes up with Grateful Dead's wall of sound and

Yeah, it could be. Maybe that's what they called it, but it's derivative. I would love to know how they did that. That'd be cool. Just like when people are over at the house. I don't think you can do it in a closed, small of an environment. I do it outside while I'm driving by. Just zap people from the car. I don't know if you can. No? These things... I first got into standing, the idea of standing waves. There was, Bose used to have a series of stereo stores all over the country and they had a standing wave exhibit within the store usually they would it was to point out that they didn't have these issues because it was a problem and they had in the way they showed it is they had a tube with a speaker on an end and then they had a bunch of these little white pellets these little styrofoam pellets and then they start playing sounds and they and you can see the waves

within the tube because it was clear and then there would be and then they do something that happened is a boop all of them went in one spot they all stood up the pellets all stood up Wow and then it moved from one end to the other and that's when I understood what it looked like so basically it's a directed energy weapon well it's not much of a weapon but yeah well it's a weapon to get sell tickets Speaking of marketing weapon speaking of standing waves we want to thank The all our go-to guy Darren O'Neill. No with Jeffrey Rhea Jeffrey Rhea did this art he he finally was able to create a white image of

Although the hair was orange the shirt was orange the desk was orange the antenna was orange the little Broadcast bits coming off the antenna were orange that was the artwork for episode 18 19 our previous episode we titled that flop 30 as a joke for cop 30 and this was this was Selected because we talked about mesh tastic and Mesh-tastic, which I've gotten so many emails from over right now like yeah, dude. It's not worth it It's no good don't even bother you only gonna be disappointed So I took that to heart

Let's see what other art. This is no agenda art generator calm where people can submit and thank you very much I see a lot of turkey a lot of Thanksgiving art for today's show Let me see what else came in for the previous episode back to the Jeffrey rea piece I would say I'm going to push this you did I was like Like it was a cartoony, but you had to admit he did a decent job of It was a gimme. It was a gimme. A lot of people posting wine glasses half full to fill to the rim full, which apparently... To prove you wrong. You're wrong, Curry. Yeah. Well, AI is right. Like for example, here's the glass all full three and it says no agenda and has a full glass of wine, which is kind of to the brim. There's a meniscus.

And then Curry and DeVore, this is not gonna be picked. No. You're just showing off. This piece of a glass of wine is not an art. So anyway, it's always in the prompting, it's always about the idea. And no comic strip blogger, your butt still will not get chosen. He's always posting butt artwork. It's just a... And we're also not gonna post Candace Owens with a gun, okay? Okay, see that one. Yeah, you did with it with the beret. All right, that's not happening Definitely not happening. Oh man, so many people are going crazy about Candace Owens I should also mention that for people artists out there. You should know that you can't use famous people

in promotional material that you don't pay them for. And these, the album art is promotional material, so we can't use, I mean you can use the president or something that's the current events, but you can't necessarily use somebody to promote your product without paying them. And I've heard Candace is rather litigious, so. Oh yes, that's right, she is. So you don't want to deal with her. Yeah, she's litigious. All right, thank you very much Jeffrey Ria for creating the artwork. We appreciate that as a valuable contribution. Of course, this is a value for value podcast. Which means that all we expect back from you is some value whenever you can bring it to us. Now I believe we had some kind of, here it is, glitch.

During the last show and we were missing some PayPal's and maybe some maybe I don't know checks whatever so seems like some of that may have carried over to today. Is that a correct assumption? I believe that's probably true. However, interestingly enough. Coming in as an executive producer top executive producer remember we thank everybody $50 and above 200 or more you become an associate executive producer real credit You can use anywhere. You can even put it on IMDB calm open your own your own profile there $300 above I will read your note, but you become an executive producer so once again executive producer

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Because what else would... You're right. Let me just put it this way. What else could possibly explain his constant world traveling, especially throughout the Mideast and all over the world, just now and everywhere, without... I mean, the only explanation is he's a caterpillar salesman. And we're going to keep it at that from now on. A small expansion for my last note. John's comparison of the Mojave Desert to Sahel was misleading. Mojave is a desert. 54,000 square miles with portions in four US states.

Sahel is semi-arid grasslands south of the Sahara, covering 1.2 million square miles larger than Alaska, Texas and California combined, reaching 3,600 miles from the Atlantic to the Red Sea across 11 sovereign countries, most former French colonies, whose countries are the largest employer of Africa Core, a focus on Chinese investment, and a region accounting for half of all terrorist deaths globally. The more you know, he says. Thank you for this death update in the sand. Only a cat sales guy could come up with that. You're right. Yeah. Thank you, Sironimus. We really appreciate you, of course. And I guess you get another Peace Prize. If you didn't already have one, you're getting one. Travis Gidry in Fort Riley, Kansas. Fort Riley.

A thousand dollars, wow. Travis Guidry from Kansas, COVID criminal to very first army reinstatement. So he was obviously in the army, got kicked out for not taking the shot. For not taking the shot and got reinstated. First one. And probably got some cash for it. Back pay, yes. This insta-dame ship is for my wife, Janine Janine. Her name is actually Janine, long time listener. Strange last name, but you never know. She needs to be de-douched. You've been de-douched. And from now on, shall be referred to as Dame Janine of beat them until morale improves.

So there's a lot of material in there that's well subtle. Thank you very much Travis and she's on the list anonymous in Bainbridge Island, Washington also $1,000 I'll say wow again ITM this donation is a switcheroo. Ah This is a posthumous knighthood for one of the best friends I could have asked ever asked for it's always a little sad when we have one of those let me just Put it in his name is Craig Phileon. Oh He fought long and hard and finally bit the bullet and succumbed to a very aggressive cancer bout only after his insurance refused to pay for his medication. Oh brother. That insurance is great. Yeah. Also a belated birthday to him as well which was on the 25th of November. Happy birthday. You are thought about often. Also please add me to the list on November 27th. So Anonymous, you're on.

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Because karma's not for football, but you know, we'll give it a shot. Happy birthday on November 28th to my smoking hot husband Josh Palmer. You are the best dad, husband, friend, and man. We adore you. Love, Justine and Sloan. Happy Thanksgiving, Adam and John. Oh, thank you so much. And Justine has a really pretty writing. She signed it. I mean really pretty. Associate Executive Producer title for Sir Cal of LavenderBlossoms.com LavenderBlossoms.com Happy Thanksgiving friends he says with $272.72 thanks for all you do. To all humans out there gift someone this year with a lavender salve. These are outstanding products both John and I have used it.

You'll score some points, I promise. And thanks to all our supporters. SirCal of... Oh, it's LavenderBlossoms.org. I'm sorry. SirCal of LavenderBlossoms.org. And if you use the coupon code ITM at checkout, you'll get some kind of deal. Thank you, SirCal. LavenderBlossoms.org. Do you have your pen? Yeah. I don't... I'm not seeing Josh Palmer on the birthday call-out list. This was on this note it could have been missed. And do you have the details Josh? That would be November 28th and my spoken hot husband Josh Palmer Josh Palmer from Justine no age. Okay got it. He's on the list now. All right you just did... Yeah I did the lavender blossoms. Okay now I got this thing. John Cena where I go?

You have to be able to shorten these on the fly, man. This is just too long. Yeah, well, it's not a matter of that. Well, anyways, Alexander... It is a night note. Alexander Django. And I have nothing but gibberish. Bjargo, not Django. Bjargo. It's B. It says B-Bjargo. Oh, Bjargo. Yeah, Bjargo. Bjargo. Bjargo. Yes, Bjargo. I agree. And he's in, I guess this is Spain. España. But it's good. It's a good bar. It's $250 recently. I asked for a donation and 33 people chipped in I asked for donations and 33 people chipped in I Believe this value for value donation earns me the honorary title of the Norwegian Knight ES. Oh that is that Estonia? I thought yes was Spain. I thought it was too, but it could be Estonia. Okay, I

So, and which would explain all the mess the rest of it is. And it sounds more like an Estonian name. Pjargo, yeah, like Bjork. Yeah. Yeah. One of my ancestors was in fact among the winter was fact, was in fact among the writers of the Norwegian Constitution in 1814. Wow. When he finally broke free from Denmark, I have a deep love, this has got to be Estonia, a deep love for my country and its culture. Regarding your recent discussion on Muslim immigrants, I believe you both underrate the impact they can have on Western society like ours. Take Drammen, one of the Norway's largest cities. There are now 21 mosques and only five churches. Well, that's a discrepancy. Yeah, there's your problem. Additionally, about 50% of the immigrants from countries like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are on social welfare. Yes, this happens.

Whose fault is this by the way? You can't blame the Muslims. No, but on top of that the Muslims are increasingly represented in local national politics Of course, they are like the current speaker of the Parliament Masood I can't pronounce his last name Garakani. Garakani. The Muslims and the socialists are loving each other. Dude, it's your government, bro. It's your borders are open and your government is letting them in. That's what you got to stop. We don't have that problem currently. No, but it'll be back after they impeach Trump.

Also consider that Muslims breed much faster than the other Norwegians. Well, that's another issue. They say that today's rate Muslims will eventually be in the majority. Oslo, the capital, unbelievable considering that Norway's become a Christian or has been a Christian country for over a thousand years. Well, then don't just rest on your laurels. I mean there's lots of things you can do. Finally, I have a theory why your listenership numbers might not be growing as quickly as you deserve. Because the listeners like me treating the show as a secret advantage... Yeah, well this is probably true. Yeah, this has always been a problem. Read it, read it, read it.

He said, we're treating the show like a secret advantage in deconstructing the news faster than my peers. The social and intellectual capital it gives me is priceless. In other words, the show is becoming a cheat. for people because you get when you which is what we the show is done for that purpose yeah to give you an advantage what's that worth it what process $250 that's that's a good value for about 250 bucks you know okay well yeah listen to this Yeah, anyway that's from Alexander. Nice, Alexander. Hey, then we have a buddy of mine, Barry from Podhome. Barry from Breda in the Netherlands, $250. He says, in the morning, gents, and thank you for your courage.

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It's very good. Yeah, this is something Mimi should be using for her local podcast. I think I recommended it to her. I said Podhome.fm because you just you throw your mp3 file in there. It does chapters, transcripts, show notes all automatic. You know, it would be great for us, but you know, we're kind of stuck in our infrastructure. But the infrastructure is great. And also, if I don't know if Barry was very happy with the amount of traffic that we that we consume twice a week, that might. No, you go now. You break him. It would break it would raise the price for everybody. So we don't want to know we have we pay. We pay big dough to keep the bandwidth up. We do. And we have a specialist who does the job in the back. Zero, the one and only. Yeah. And gets paid on time.

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I've hit several people in the mouth, but I want to call out my co-worker and fellow assistant principal Jason Lenz as a douchebag. Hopefully he and Gavin will see the light and donate. Wow. During the season of Thanksgiving, I want to thank both, by the way, let's give Alan here a de-douching right off the top. You've been de-douched. During the season of Thanksgiving, I want to thank both of you for working on Thanksgiving, oh no, he says, for your amygdala shrinking work each Thursday and Sunday as our special guest.

Schedule district faces... School, school, school district. School, I'm sorry. School. Wow. You can see where I got a D in that, don't you? School. School district faces financial challenges. I would ask for a jobs karma for those of us wanting to continue serving our students and community. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Alrighty. You've got karma. I just realized I forgot to give out a jobs karma for the note earlier. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Now we come to 233.33, Little John's Candies from Somerset, California with a note that is too long, but I will see what I can do here. In the morning, John and Adam, hopefully you've both been to your PO box recently and found a package from us.

I did not see a package yet. Did you see it? I have a package. I got the package. Inside it includes some olive oil and it includes some... Well, I'll read it here. Inside you will find our world famous English toffee and our chocolate turkeys. Okay, stop. The chocolate turkey is a work of art. I'm gonna have to go to the PO box before we go to our dinner. The chocolate turkey is a work of art. I don't know what, how they got this mold. It's very detailed. It's unbelievable. It also includes a bottle of wine from one of our fellow small businesses here in Amdur County, Driven Cellars, and a bottle of olive oil from another local small business, Slow 220. I thought you might enjoy these for your Thanksgiving holiday. Being from a family of small business owners, I often think of value, and you guys certainly deliver real value. I think of how I can ensure that the people in my community are directly affected by my business.

The most impactful way for me to do that is for Little John's to spend its money with other local small businesses, whether it's a box or a bag, almonds or butter, or any of the other basic nuts and bolts that you need to run a business, we shop small. My father always taught me that when we spent money with another small business, it grew the community and enabled the community to spend money with us. True. And that's why you should spend money on your podcasters, to help podcasting grow. At Little John's Candies, we've been making candy exactly the same way for over 100 years while staying true to that small local business model. Our business model was built over 100 years ago. With no advertising dollars into the budget, we simply didn't build discounts into our margins to drive sales. Our prices have always been based on value. That doesn't mean we're the best price on the market, but we've always been a fair price. I think you're best price.

We've always prided ourselves on the idea that we charge the same price to everyone and rarely provide discounts. I share this because I want to show my appreciation for the value you give by offering you and this community a little extra value from us. 10% off your order! That is the discount. Anytime between now and Christmas and if you buy our world-famous English toffee, we'll donate 10% of that to the NO AGENDA show in your name! Our world-famous toffee is made with simple ingredients. Butter, sugar, almonds, and chocolate has been shipped all over the world. Families have built traditions around giving, receiving, and sharing it. At the holidays, we pride ourselves in still making our toffee fresh and cooked to perfection. Use code ITM10 plus 10, that's P-L-U-S, at checkout. No jingles, because I had too long of a note, and thank you for your courage. Christopher and the Little John's Elves.

P.S. Did I mention we offer gift wrap at no extra charge? Now who does that? Wow, okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm sorry. We went to the... must have just come in because we went to the P.A. box earlier but didn't see it. Do you have a post office box locally or do you have to drive all the way to Austin? No, no. It's here locally. Oh, okay. At the Fredericksburg Post Office, baby. Barbara Kemp comes in from Granger, Indiana, 223 and she has a note that is impossible to read. Yeah. She has a birthday coming up and she's got a birthday call out for somebody. She's calling out a birthday for someone who's going to be 100 years old. Wow. So this is the kind of broad range of demo that we have on our show. Zeds to 100. Zeds to centennials.

So she, okay, here's, I'm gonna explain what happened here. I have the note in front of me. It's impossible to read. It's impossible to read. She has good handwriting, but she's 71 and I have to assume that when she learned her handwriting skills, and this is longhand, this is not printed, she's got a great hand, but she's using a light ink, which makes it tough, even though the copy is a little better looking than the paper itself. But everything is jammed together so tight, it makes it very difficult to read aloud. It's readable. And so she says, starts off with hell. Oh no, I'm sorry, it says well. So she's using a W from, let's say French. The French have a weird pen. Well finally, a moment to write a note

and tell you and Adam Adam Thanks. Yes. Help me out here. Thanks. I believe I started listening to the no agenda about Time Adam was returning from some trip. Yeah his travel logs are always amusing and They are particularly... That particular day exceptional. The TSA has... Yes, I agree with this by the way. I can do this. I can do this. The TSA has a way of making his flying days exceptional. LOL.

From that day on I was hooked my son-in-law Seth had been listening for years and knew The king and I would jump right on board the king and I and no We have and and and so we have for years And especially appreciated the kovat madness can't inserted something you two kept the king and I saying the king and I But the king has gone in another something-festing adventure. Another long-festering, long-festering. And so I'm home alone. Ah! Somebody go keep her company. There's nothing better in my mind than to see a lettuce and a lettuce. A letter. A letter.

than to pen a letter and send in a donation. I gotcha. And since my mother is due, my mother's due to be 100 November 28th, I wanted you and Adam to wish her happy, wish her a happy one for me. My mother, this is Alberta, Alberta. Yeah. Chugs along. Was she drinking Chardonnay? Chugs along and for the most part does well mentally. Current events stump her. But events of the past come to mind of 10. My brother and I learn new things all the time. Since 100 seems like a measly amount, I'll add on a bit more. I turned 71 the 25th of November. Congratulations. My daughter, Rachel, was 35 May 2nd, and my granddaughter, Edith, is 17 months.

Four generations comes to a grand total of two hundred and twenty three dollars. We are all flyover girls fly girls or shall I say good Mediterranean stock Hopefully the enclosed rise were even trying to get through my mom used to write like this. So this is why she Okay Hopefully the enclosed donation will fill up your bank account some too. Thank you. Mom, the king and I, happy Thanksgiving to truly Barbara Camp. P.S. The jam is from my kitchen. The fruit... She said a ball of jam. The fruit crop was perfect this year. Wow. Thank you for the note. I appreciate that. That's really beautiful. Happy birthday to Alberta. 100 years. Yeah, wow. Wow is right.

That's a big deal. Very few people can accomplish that feat. Yes. You're up. I just read an entire note! All right, Beth. Beth Elliot in Corrytown, Tennessee. Whoops, another note. This is from page seven. Let's see if we can... Oh, it says, ITM Gents. I can read this. Beth, 222.22. Hey, you're taking it, you're cheating again. I'm going to read it. ITM Gents, congratulations. Thank you for your courage. Yours truly, Beth, aka... Beth. Thank you, Beth. Thank you, Beth. Bay Beth. And there's Eli the Coffee Guy with $211.27, $200 plus today's date, 11-27. He's from Bensonville, Illinois. I am enjoying his product as we speak. He says, with the turkey on the table and Thanksgiving entering the rear view, the season of America consumerism and year-end retrospectives is in full swing. We've got John and the No Agenda show. What am I? Chopped liver?

Yeah, we got John John and the Noah Jenner show to thank for reminding us where the holiday even came from. Oh, that's true. As a producer, I'm grateful for you too and your dedication showing up even on the holidays. And while we're on gratitude, I'm thankful for all producers out there who start their morning with gigawatt. Quick heads up. If you missed the early access email, no worries, our cans are officially available to everyone and we're kicking off a site-wide Black Friday sale through Monday. So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and treat yourself or someone else to the gift of good coffee. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy. Thank you, Eli. I love the cold brews.

Although here's a tip I have, because it says shake vigorously for it to release the nitro. Yeah. So when you do that, you want to grab like a Kleenex or something before you open it. Because yeah, that's with all nitro stuff. Yeah. Cause it sprays, sprays. Yeah. So just open it with a Kleenex and, uh, and then toss that away. It's good. You can use a napkin. Napkin is yes. Yes. Appropriate. Uh, I want to just interim here. Thanks, Sir. Benjamin Ritgers. And I also some other person sent one of these. I got two of those flags I've been wanting to get free. Oh, I like with the pirate straw hat pirate guy. The the the anime crossbones. Yeah, I got two of these flags. The one made in China, by the way. Yeah. The one piece flag.

They're made in China, which I thought was ironic. Yeah. But so I want to thank them for the flags. I have flags hanging now. I look like a protester. You don't even have a flagpole, man. I don't have a flagpole and I'm glad. Matthew Martel, our buddy in Brumal, Pennsylvania. The spats between Adam and JCD are akin to Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler. That's a callback that I get, Adam doesn't get, very few people get.

It's an op everybody visit Martel hardware calm use coupon code code rage bait For an additional 10% off your order. Happy Thanksgiving Jcd hot pockets is what he wants to hear Hot pockets. And coming in with $209 Dame Patricia Worthington from Merced, Merced, Merced, Merced, California. Handwritten note. Dear Adam and Johnna. It says Dame Patricia. Now Worthington is the one, Dame Patricia Worthington is in Florida. Oh, I'm sorry. This is just Dame Patricia. I am so sorry. Thank you for the correction. And she has a birthday November 29th. Is that on the list? Can you check that for me? Let me just see.

Is she on? Yeah, she got it. When Jay puts it on the note at the top, it's there. Okay. Here's her note, which I can read. Thanks to my mom. Dear John Adam, I have been a loyal listener since the dark days of 2020. Thank you for illuminating. Thank you for illuminating, for your illuminating commentaries. Please wish my daughter Emily Mitchell a happy birthday on November 29th. Another follower of your show in Uriah, California. Ukiah. Ukiah, California. Now let's plug my son's business. Okay. Brian Lewis's surface painting and wallpapering feature

featuring Italian plastering and specialty finishes in Atascadero, San Luis Obispo County, California. San Louis. San... Oh, I always thought it was San Luis. Okay, San Luis Obispo. Text Brian. Text him right now. Everybody, text Brian. It's all text Brian. 805-470-9917. You can rewind that to hear it again. So he knows you're a real person and not Yelp or Google trying to sell some advertising space. Now he's going to get spammed by ITMs from every rando that listens to the show. Claim your no agenda discount. That's right. May God bless you and keep you well. Dame Patricia with practically perfect penmanship. God bless you too, Dame Patricia. Thank you very much. I loved it. But I will say this, doing Italian plastering is a big deal. Yes. So this guy's probably really good.

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to read some of these handwritten notes. It is highly appreciated, if only for John and I. Again, we'll thank the rest of our donors, $50 and above, coming up pretty soon, because I do have to get out of here on time, and we're running long thanks to those notes. So go to noagendadonations.com. It's value for value. Whatever you get out of the show, stick it right back in. noagendadonations.com. Congrats to the executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. I have one presentation on the sex scandal going on in the army which I think is disgusting. Sex scandal? I have random clips. This is an A block type thing. Why you left that for the D block?

Yeah, well I could have played it earlier but I think we were... it was so much more important that we discuss the... The what? The... dome abandoned the ship or whatever. Yeah, yeah, the Seditious Six, I got you. Alright, okay, so set us up. What is this about? Well, it sets itself up, it's self-explanatory, but this isn't getting a lot of play. I don't know why. But maybe it's because everyone's on vacation, they don't want to cover anything. Don't want to work. I want to work. Nobody wants to work. And so here we go. The PBS apparently does want to work. And so they gave us this report as dynamite. This week, the U.S. Army has been reckoning with a sexual abuse scandal that could involve the largest number of allegations in its history. An Army doctor is accused of abusing women who were under his care.

Here's Anu Navas. Approximately 80 women have filed a legal complaint against him. One case alleges that McGraw quote used his position of trust to sexually exploit, manipulate and secretly record women under his care. Joining us now is attorney Andrew Kobos representing 70 alleged victims of Dr. McGraw. Kobos is a West Point graduate who served in the US Army including at Fort Hood. Andrew welcome to the show thanks for joining us.

So, to start by telling us about these women that you're representing, who are they? Are they active duty? Are they military spouses? And what exactly are they alleging was done to them by this doctor? The majority of the women that we represent are military spouses. And they span all four branches of the military, Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine. Now, this abuse happened both at Fort Hood and in Hawaii at Tripler Army Medical Center. And there were hundreds, if not thousands of women under Dr. McGraw's care, and he violated them in multiple ways. He took photographs and videos of them as they were in their most vulnerable position in his exam room. He touched them in improper ways that were medically unnecessary. And on occasion, he induced birth without their consent, without their knowledge,

and without notification to their family that they were going to give birth. And so this is, as I've been describing it, one of the most, one of the largest and most significant sexual assault cases in the history of the military. Holy crap. Yeah, you haven't even heard of it, have you? No, what kind of creep is this guy? This is like the soccer coach. No, the Olympic guy. Yeah, whatever. Like so many doctors. I mean, sorry doctors, but so it's... Yeah, there are doctors out there that are up to no good. You know what it is? It's because he's talking to his chatbot all day. I'm going to get this wrapped. And one of the complaints filed by Jane Doe, obviously her identity is protected, she talked about invasive breast and vaginal exams that were unnecessary, not being given a medical gown to wear during those examinations, and then as you mentioned, secretly being recorded on a phone that Dr. McGraw kept in his jacket pocket. How did your clients come to learn about those photos and videos?

Fortunately, one of the women that we represent had her husband in the examination room. Now, this is not a common occurrence. It was actually a rare occurrence for Dr. McGraw to have anybody, to allow anybody in the exam room while he was working on these patients. And the husband of his patient was behind Dr. McGraw. He leaned in while he was doing a pelvic examination and his phone in his lab coat tipped forward. The husband was able to visually see that the phone was on record and immediately he was concerned about about his wife, about her in this position. And so he tried notifying the chain of command. He called CID. Fortunately, CID started an investigation and he experienced a lot of frustration trying to bring his complaints and trying to bring awareness to the military that this doctor was unlawfully and improperly recording his patients. And so ultimately CID got involved, an investigation was undertaken, and they found

large numbers of videos and photographs on his phone. CID of course is the criminal investigative division of the Army. The Army did provide us with a statement which I want to read to you in part here. They said they're committed to supporting patients affected by the allegations. They've swiftly established a call center, assigned a special victims council, are actively notifying patients and they say they've created a patient support line as well. They're encouraging people with information to come forward. I'm hoping that we in these next two clips we get to how many how many women he's done this to or so they just say 86 are on his list okay well and the 12 over 1,200 women have been sent letters so we know as it could be over a thousand easily and the thing about it is this the next clips are the part that are disgusting which is the women who had these issues they tell it

Tell somebody about it right away, and they're whatever and so nobody cares nobody does anything until this Mail that catches the guy who's an obvious idiot says he's got the camera recording with his you know as his wife is being examined and And he catches this and it starts and he still has to struggle. This is the last clip so explain this. But as you mentioned Andrew before Fort Hood, Dr. McGraw was posted in Hawaii. They tell us in a statement that they're in the process of notifying Dr. McGraw's patients. You told my colleague that you spoke to nurses at that Hawaii Medical Center. What did you hear from them?

When I spoke to the nurses at Tripler Army Medical Center, what they said is that it was common knowledge around Tripler that there were allegations against Dr. McGraw of videotaping and recording his patients. So much so that it was a standing joke among the folks at Tripler that Dr. McGraw always got the crazy patients. And that is what I've heard. We are working to establish in greater detail the investigation that was conducted over McGraw at Tripler Medical Center. We know that there was an investigation, but so far we haven't heard from the Army. And that's left a lot of people wondering, how long did the Army know? What did they know? And why didn't they take proactive measures to address these situations?

So you know that there was a complaint at the Hawaii Medical Center before he was transferred to Fort Hood. I know some of your clients said they complained about this doctor and those complaints went nowhere. Really, we have a couple different issues there. One is that complaints were going unrecognized. I have clients who after visiting with McGraw stepped outside into the hospital and they talked to the on duty nurse, they talked to the sergeant who was at the desk in tears. One of my clients tells me she was in tears and she talked for 10 minutes and she said he violated me. And she was given a telephone number and said, I can't take a report, call this number. And she called the number time after time after time after time. And she got hung up on, she got put on hold. She was unable to actually make the report. And this is one of the common complaints. Well, this is depressing for Thanksgiving. I like to go out on a high note.

So yes, and this is a classic example. I've noticed this with other government agencies. They give you a phone number. There's nobody there at the other end. They hang up or they go, oh, hold on a second, click. It's just, it's horrible. And this is inexcusable. And the thing that bothers me the most is nobody will hang for this. No. The doctor will get a slap on the wrist, maybe he even goes to prison, but all the other people are responsible. The people who didn't take the reports, the people who didn't take it seriously, the phony baloney phone number you're supposed to call and nobody answers. Nobody will get any reprimands or anything.

Because that's, which is what, this stuff continues to happen because of that. Allowing, you know, just allowing people to slide. I realize there are a lot of questions still unanswered here, Andrew, but what does justice look like? What's the accountability your clients are seeking? There are multiple ways that justice should occur and accountability should occur in this situation. The first and most obvious way is to hold the perpetrator responsible for his actions. But McGraw is also accountable to my clients, who he victimized. But more than that, the Army is accountable and they should be held responsible for what they did not do in this situation. My clients are ultimately filing a federal tort claims act lawsuit against the Army, and they're seeking restitution for the damages and the harms that they suffered at the hands of an Army employee who should have been removed from that position.

And the unfortunate thing is that this is a pattern that happens in the army and quite frankly happens in all of the military services. And if you just want to go back to the Vanessa Guillen incident in 2020 and look at what the fallout was from that incident. a 272 page report addressing the shortcomings of the army. And it happens again and again and again. And I think that that is what accountability looks like. It looks like reforming the system, not just paying lip service, but actually going in and figuring out how do we address the problem of sexual assault in the military? And that is a good starting point to address the problems that these victims faced and what accountability looks like in the army. Wow.

Yeah, and we also go to look at James Comer. The whole thing is the Republicans, it's everybody, it's a bureaucracy, they never, there's no accountability, nobody ever gets reprimanded or punished. It just continues on and who pays the bill for this? The taxpayers, you're paying for this, for these issues because they're gonna get sued, the army's gonna have to pay a big fine and the military budget has to go up. Here's what I recommend everybody. Call the suits calm call a guy who knows the ropes Rob the constitutional lawyer. He'll get you millions. Yeah, well you can do that if you want but It's gonna cost the taxpayers money, yeah, okay. Well you could have done two clips honestly

It was like eight minutes. I thought it was good. Eight minutes. There you go again. Eight minutes of that. You would have said the same thing if I did it. You would have said, yeah, it was good, okay. But I would have after the show. Oh! Alright, I'll end this on a high note. Ready? This is unlistenable this little bit, but I left it in because he's basically saying I don't eat that crap. Why does anyone buy that crap? I don't I don't eat our bioengineered chicken. He's an executive and he's also talking about the thing I hope you have it in there is that is the what is it 3D printed chicken is in the chicken noodle soup? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he says. I won't eat 3D printed chicken.

Eating bioengineered meat. I don't wanna eat it. A piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer. The recording is allegedly from a conversation that's now part of a lawsuit filed by Robert Garza, a cybersecurity analyst for Campbell's who claims he was fired after reporting the alleged remarks, which he says also included racist comments about company employees. Garza claims Campbell executive Martin Bali made those comments after the two met to discuss Garza's salary. In a statement, Garza's attorney saying this situation has been very hard on Robert. He thought Campbell's would be thankful that he reported Martin's behavior, but instead he was abruptly fired. Campbell's responding saying, if the comments were in fact made, they are unacceptable. They do not reflect our values and the culture of our company. And going on to say, the comments heard on the recording about our food are not only inaccurate, they are patently absurd.

Nothing melts away the cold like a delicious hot bowl of Campbell's soup. Campbell saying, the chicken meat used in our soups comes from long trusted USDA approved US suppliers and meets our high quality standards. And the company noting, Bally worked in IT and had nothing to do with food production. Bally is on leave pending a company investigation. In the meantime, the attorney general in Florida, a state that bans lab grown meat, says his office is now investigating Campbell's products. I guarantee you it's Lab Grommets. You know it. Oh, it's USDA approved products. Oh, okay. Who knows what's in there if it's USDA approved? It sounds believable. How is this an upbeat note?

Well, because nobody in their right mind eats Campbell's soup. Yeah, but that's not a big deal. You're slamming the company and it's just a negative story. I thought you have something funny. Well, do a talk clip then. Oh, no, the TikTok clip's not funny either. I do have something that's got to be kind of funny. Well, oh. You know it's more like well, let's do this. This is let's play the weather report because everyone's traveling right now. There's a Thanksgiving Cold blast. Okay, that'll do it. On this day before Thanksgiving, a major winter storm and a plunge in temperatures is wreaking havoc with many travelers' schedules. Flight delays are piling up and as John Yang reports, temperatures will drop to 20 degrees below normal in much of the central and eastern parts of the country. Climate change is real! I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

Yes, we're our segues and we have a few people to thank over $50 not as many as I thought but quite a few and Adam will read them off one at a time Talia Dupree is in McKinney, Texas not too far from here $150 and she is also asking to be on the birthday list Is she on the birthday list is a good question? No, she's not J. Talia. Talia, what's her last name? Dupree, 42. Okay. Talia Dupree, 42 on the 28th. Yeah, we got you. Just in time.

Dame Rita Sparks Nevada 133 dot 33 and She did add a little note which I will share because she's always donating a witness several young adults buying Costco's ready-made mac and cheese for their potluck Thanksgiving Gathering the show's mac and cheese jingle came to mind. Yes. We've been predicting this for 18 years Christine Hines, Manchester, New Hampshire one two, three, four five. Thank you, Robin Robin Tolbert's Topeka, Kansas 103 dot 33 message received William Galton, Naples, Florida, 100. Anonymous from San Francisco, Anon, I should say, 100. Frank Molinari from Bulverdi, Texas, $100. Kev McLaughlin, there he is. Is pronounced Bulverdi? Bulverdi, yes.

He's in Concord, North Carolina. He is the Archduke of Luna and lover of boobs, and he comes in with 8008. Thank you very much. Victoria P. in West Orange, New Jersey. Hello, West Orange. This is a switcheroo for James Ramsawak. 77.35 towards knighthood of my hot and humble husband. It's his 35th birthday on Thanksgiving. And he says, John, please don't forget your tip of the day for the knives or I'll be left without a Christmas gift. That's a hint. Okay, it's coming. John Albarrini, $70.26. Dame Becky Arlington Washington, $69.69. Raymond Baker Jr., Hoffman Estates, Illinois, $67.67. Dame Liberty Mom, Vista, California. Small boobs for her.

6-0-0-6 Nancy McMurphy, San Bruno, California 5721. Surprise in Yukon, Oklahoma 5444. Luke Albert Murphy, North Carolina switcheroo for his brother Jake Albert who needs karma coming up $54. Nathan Gwynn in Jackson, Tennessee 5272. Frank Pugh, Tallahassee, Florida 5271. Interesting there's one penny difference for some reason. and Mike Valek in Chattanooga, Tennessee 5271. We have Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania 5250. Baron Henry from Ranchos Palos Verdes in California 5242. Andrew Benz from Imperial, Missouri 5005. And here are the 50s. Brett Denton from Boise, Idaho. Melissa Alvarez from Ponte Verde Beach, Florida.

50 George Wuschett in La Vernia, Texas 50 Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon Benjamin Ryan in Alliance, Ohio Richard Gardner parts unknown, Ox Otherix, Buffalo, New York, Michael Myers from Diamond Head, Missouri, Sir Michael from Snohomish, Washington, and wrapping up our row of 50s, Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington. We appreciate all of you so much, as well as our executive and associate executive producers for today's episode, and we thank everyone who came in under $50. Typically for anonymity we'll never mention you under 50, but we do see you $49.99 and of course you can set up a recurring donation any amount any frequency which is a good idea to do and it's a great way to support our value for value model. Go to noagendadonations.com any amount any frequency noagendadonations.com

Barbara Kemp turned 71 on the 25th. Happy birthday, Barbara, was a beautiful note. Anonymous from Bainbridge Island wishes Craig Philly and a happy one. He's celebrating on the 25th. And Anonymous from Bainbridge Island celebrates today, the 27th. Victoria P. Happy birthday to her hot and humble husband, Jayme Ramaswak, turns 35 today. Jessie Dvorak turning 27. Congratulations. No. It says Jessie. Turning, turning. It says Jessie Dvorak, November 27th. Yeah, but she's not turning 27. Did I say that? Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. She's 55.

She's not 55. How old is Jessie? I don't know if she wants me to say. Okay. Happy birthday Jessie Dvorak celebrating today. Barbara Kemp happy birthday to her mom 100 years old tomorrow. Alan Huntcraft turns 50 on the 29th. Dave Patricia happy birthday to her daughter Emily Mitchell she celebrates in the 29th and Justin under the wire Joss Palmer Tomer celebrating tomorrow and Talia Dupree turns 42 tomorrow as well. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. One, two, three. Recipients of the official No Agenda Peace Prize. We are very proud to hand these out to the following well-deserved recipients.

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Welcome to the roundtable both of you. We have the requisite hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay We've got pepperoni rolls and pale ales here red heads and rise Ruben s women and rosé along with the hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay, of course bong hits of bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale and gerbils breast milk of pablum and as always at the roundtable we've got some mutton and some mead just for you and Welcome! Go to noagenderrings.com, same for our No Agenda Peace Prize recipients. Let us know where to send it to and for the knight and for the dame, please give us your ring size. There's a ring size guide on the website and with that you'll get a certificate of authenticity and of course some wax to seal your ultra important correspondence with your brand new Signet Knight or Dame Ring.

Well, we do have that one meetup that took place today. I'm sure it's over the huffing and puffing for stuff. And so this was a turkey trot two mile walk and I hope they're done by now. This started at 11 in the morning in Spokane. Let us know how that went. Send us in a meetup report on Saturday. The Wageningen Food Hub Vogue Fest You'll owe nothing and love this bitterball meetup in the Netherlands at Wageningen University in Gelderland. And that will be hosted by soon-to-be Sir Jaap of the Frankenfoods Valley and Sir Doris of the Wild Boar Mountains and Sir Berend Goes Kadaver. Please RSVP because they're expecting you to come.

December we've got Galeta California, Raleigh North Carolina, Toronto and Canada, Rochester Minnesota, Eagle Idaho, Indianapolis, Indiana, Charlotte North Carolina, Clovis California, Santa Rosa California and Los Altos California. How is it possible so many people in California are listening to this show? When you have those meetups send the report to us include your server And if you'd like to find out more about any of the meetups go to no agenda meetups calm if you can't find one near you Start one yourself get it on no agenda meetups You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a pod. So, before we get to John's tip of the day, which is of course is a great way to end any show, it will not be the knives tip today. I'm reliably informed, but that is coming. It may be a Thanksgiving tip. We always like to- No. It's not?

Not really. We always like to do a little test here of what we will end the show with. Before you do that, I have to correct an error so I don't get letters or notes and it should have been done by the chat room. ES is the top level domain for Spain, so our Norwegian knight has a Spanish ISP. EE is for Estonia. Oh, okay. Now the trolls are doing nothing today. No, they're not helping. No, they could... We try to make these corrections during the show so we don't get lots of notes from people. Notes. You guys don't know what you're talking about. Alright, here's my end of show ISO candidates. Thank you for that! Hmm? Oh my god. Yeah, or this one. Flu season is back open! Woohoo!

And the final, I went to the well. This is so good. Top that. Actually, I do like that one a bit. I do have two. Both of them are, both of mine are better. Oh. Um, so what are they called? I don't have them in front of me. Stick and dad gum. Yeah. Dad gum. Play dad gum. Dad gum it. They hit it out of the park again. I know that guy from somewhere, I'm not sure. He's right to the point. Yeah. Stick is six seconds. And then this was probably too long, but I like it. The show could not be any better if it was put on a stick and deep fat fried. No, no. You're doing too much. You gotta... No. I think it's between... Dadgummit! They hit it out of the park again. And this one. This is so good.

Well since I'm winning all the time, why don't you use the Alex Jones one? Okay, we'll do that. And now before we go, it is time for John's Tip of the Day! I'm going back to the well and I realize I never push this one hot sauce, which would be good on turkey I will say. And I use it all the time. I have a longstanding relationship with different hot sauces. I always think one of the greatest sauces ever made is Tabasco sauce, the brand.

and the way they make it's made with these special peppers. And then we've had Melinda's, I promoted that on the show before, and I always like Crystal too, which is a very nice sauce. But I've replaced the Crystal with actually this incredibly mild hot sauce, it's really mild. And it's called Frank's Red Hot. Yeah, Frank's Red Hot. Frank's Red Hot is a sauce that's been around forever. I only discovered it about a decade ago and I feel kind of bad about it because I always looked at it as some sort of a cheap sleazy like useless hot sauce. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and my palate like stuff like this. It's a, I think it only has 450 Scovilles. It's not that hot.

And by the way, Frank's is the base for buffalo chicken wing sauce, or what you toss the buffalo chicken wings in. And for all practical purposes, buffalo chicken wing sauce is nothing more than half Frank's hot sauce, or red hot, they call it, Frank's hot sauce and butter. Half butter, half this sauce, you've got the chicken wing sauce. You can put some Worcestershire in there if you want to. But that's essentially it. This stuff, You can just douse things with it. It's almost could be a soup. You just put it on everything and I think it's got one of the best flavor profiles of any just rando condiment. It's delicious and it would be good on turkey. You could even put it on your cornflakes.

No, I'm just I don't know about that. It's a good this is funny idea there everybody. Yeah, I'm terrific. Oh, I'm sorry It's a terrific product that is it's of course. It's a terrific product because it is one of John's tips of the day Sometimes Created by Dan Jetty. Well, I hope everybody enjoyed the show, the show today. We are doing real work, unlike MS Now, who for the past hour and a half have had Nicole Wallace with headphones on sitting there, because you know, she thinks, oh yeah, we got to have other podcasters on my podcast. She's doing a podcast on MS Now with the whole crew from the Midas Touch podcast.

Oh my god. Yeah, that's the level you get. But not here, not on the No Agenda Show. No, no, no, no. In fact, we'll even end it with some end of show mixes. We've got MVP checking in twice and Danny Luce is back. MVP sandwiching in Danny Luce. And we will return on Sunday for more excitement here on the No Agenda Show. Please join us and I am coming to you today from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where we wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. Have a good meal tonight.

I'm John Cena Borak. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Thank you for being a producer of the best podcast in the universe. We really appreciate you. And remember us at noagendadonations.com. We've got Planet Rage, our 200th episode next on the stream until Sunday. Adios, fo-fos. A-hooey-hooey and such. Good evening everyone. Welcome to the show. Yeah! Let's deconstruct some news! Boomer and Boomer adjacent, two guys on the air One in the valley, one way down there Manlo the buzzkill says don't trust your head That's what he said Then you got Caster, the man they call Crackpot

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